Jump to content

Pakistani women gets mad Cop speaking Punjabi


Kau89r8
 Share

Recommended Posts

The question of whether pakistanis speak punjabi is not really relevant to us . 

What is highly relevant and Sikh world needs to focus on is , preserving the remnants of our knowledge to pass it onto our successive generation. ALREADY, we have lost a significant  knowledge of SGGS itself and now certain contents have become mysteries. For eg : 

1) What is meaning of "ghar" in gurbani ?

2) Gurbani is raag based entirely . What do the 31 raags mean ? How do they fit with gurbani under its title. for instance , if a shabad title is "Siri Raag Mehla 1"  , how do you sing it in Siri Raag ? Have we even wondered if the syllables of shabad fit with the raag pattern of siri raag ?

3) What is the meaning of numerous dhunis spread across SGGS and how do we sing them ?

4) There're literal riddles in SGGS . How many of our preachers tried to explain those ?

5) Have we prepared a huge dictionary explaining the context, etymology , language of words used in SGGS ? Let me tell you language of Vedas was almost outdated and nobody knew it anymore , people thought it was all mumble jumble mantras without any meaning behind them as early as 5th century BC , until a guy named "Yaska" compiled a big treatise on meaning behind each word used in vedas , even then leaves some 300 words whose meaning even he doesn't know. Because of his efforts alone, hindus thank him that they still can understand somewhat of their scripture, obscured otherwise by sands of time. What are we doing to preserve ours ?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

58 minutes ago, AjeetSingh2019 said:

I don't think the gurus spoke the kind of punjabi we speak today. The language we found written in some historical manuscripts related to conversations between sikhs of that time seem to indicate it was more like modern day haryanvi mixed with punjabi mixed with hindi . It sounds weird . If you read sau sakhi or the historic letter of bhai mani singh to mata sundri , u will know what I am trying to say 

Letters during this time period were usually written in Khariboli and prose rather than in Punjabi. Before Bhai Vir Singh ji Punjabi language was not widely written even by the Sikhs. Punjabi was not used as a literary language but rather as a spoken language. So when our Gurus wrote they wrote in the literary languages of the time period such as Braj, SantBhasha, Khariboli, Farsi but with hints of Punjabi which was their native language just as Bhagat Namdev ji wrote in Sant Bhasha but with hints of Marathi which was his native language.

But that is not to say Punjabi has never been used in literature. Muslim Sufi Saints of Punjab wrote exclusively in Punjabi. Baba Farid ji, Shah Hussein, Baba Bulle Shah wrote in the Punjabi of their time. They used such words which are now no longer used in modern Punjabi. Guru Gobind Singh ji wrote in pure Punjabi in Chandi Di Vaar which can still be understood without translations by those who have a good grasp of old Punjabi.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, AjeetSingh2019 said:

Punjabi and its survival is important to us. A considerable amount of Gurbani of Guru Nanak dev ji and Bhagat Farid ji is in old punjabi, a lot of whose words were only last spoken of in our grandfather's generation. We need to preserve ALL languages whose words are in SGGS 

OR ATLEAST we should prepare a bigger version of mahankosh , not just a dictionary but a listing of etymologies of all the word in SGGS.

How can we be sure10 generations down the line Punjabi will be same as today ? But baani won't change.

So we might end up in a situation that is today of the vedas, they're in a language which is pretty much dead and has thus become undecipherable . 

What I meant was we shouldn't care if Pakistanis speak Punjabi or not. 

All languages do die out or change so much that you cannot understand the older versions. English from 1000 years ago cannot be understood by today's speakers.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

12 hours ago, MisterrSingh said:

 I wish I was a little scientifically minded to pinpoint exactly what's going on here, but I tried my best.

I think what you have explained here points to the hypergamous nature of women.

Thanks to California Sardar for quoting this post that I initially missed reading. It truly is an amazing post by MisterrSingh.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...
 Share


  • advertisement_alt
  • advertisement_alt
  • advertisement_alt


  • Topics

  • Posts

    • yeh it's true, we shouldn't be lazy and need to learn jhatka shikaar. It doesn't help some of grew up in surrounding areas like Slough and Southall where everyone thought it was super bad for amrit dharis to eat meat, and they were following Sant babas and jathas, and instead the Singhs should have been normalising jhatka just like the recent world war soldiers did. We are trying to rectifiy this and khalsa should learn jhatka.  But I am just writing about bhog for those that are still learning rehit. As I explained, there are all these negative influences in the panth that talk against rehit, but this shouldn't deter us from taking khanda pahul, no matter what level of rehit we are!
    • How is it going to help? The link is of a Sikh hunter. Fine, but what good does that do the lazy Sikh who ate khulla maas in a restaurant? By the way, for the OP, yes, it's against rehit to eat khulla maas.
    • Yeah, Sikhs should do bhog of food they eat. But the point of bhog is to only do bhog of food which is fit to be presented to Maharaj. It's not maryada to do bhog of khulla maas and pretend it's OK to eat. It's not. Come on, bro, you should know better than to bring this Sakhi into it. Is this Sikh in the restaurant accompanied by Guru Gobind Singh ji? Is he fighting a dharam yudh? Or is he merely filling his belly with the nearest restaurant?  Please don't make a mockery of our puratan Singhs' sacrifices by comparing them to lazy Sikhs who eat khulla maas.
    • Seriously?? The Dhadi is trying to be cute. For those who didn't get it, he said: "Some say Maharaj killed bakras (goats). Some say he cut the heads of the Panj Piyaras. The truth is that they weren't goats. It was she-goats (ਬਕਰੀਆਂ). He jhatka'd she-goats. Not he-goats." Wow. This is possibly the stupidest thing I've ever heard in relation to Sikhi.
    • Instead of a 9 inch or larger kirpan, take a smaller kirpan and put it (without gatra) inside your smaller turban and tie the turban tightly. This keeps a kirpan on your person without interfering with the massage or alarming the masseuse. I'm not talking about a trinket but rather an actual small kirpan that fits in a sheath (you'll have to search to find one). As for ahem, "problems", you could get a male masseuse. I don't know where you are, but in most places there are professional masseuses who actually know what they are doing and can really relieve your muscle pains.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

Terms of Use