20+ Indian troops killed by chinese troops in ladakh LAC border tension

[genie]

15 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

Well, we know what'll probably be next then, aerial bombing of the infrastructure by the Chinese. 

Which will lead to declaration of war. Things can only escalate both china and india do not want to get into a full scale war especially as both are emerging superpowers.

According to this Indian media news report they say US intelligence has said 35 Chinese soldiers died from the brawl. No one is going to believe them until actual proof is given to the public.

 

[dallysingh101]

4 minutes ago, genie said:

Things can only escalate both china and india do not want to get into a full scale war especially as both are emerging superpowers.

Surely they can't be that dumb, they finally get a chance to overtake the west maybe, and they want to pi55 it away over this? Plus all that covid19 ish. 

If China wanted to mess up India, they could probably do a better job with covert biological warfare.  

[ChardikalaUK]

1 hour ago, proactive said:

Looks like there are four Sikhs out of the 20. Really sad that they lost their lives defending the interests of the country which committed genocide on their people. 

It's actually 5, Ankush Thakur is a Sardar. 

So that's 1/4 of all dead. We are less than 2% of the population. I want over representation in CEOs and technical jobs, not the army.

[GurjantGnostic]

5 minutes ago, ChardikalaUK said:

It's actually 5, Ankush Thakur is a Sardar. 

So that's 1/4 of all dead. We are less than 2% of the population. I want over representation in CEOs and technical jobs, not the army.

Amen bro. 

[genie]

7 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

Surely they can't be that dumb, they finally get a chance to overtake the west maybe, and they want to pi55 it away over this? Plus all that covid19 ish. 

If China wanted to mess up India, they could probably do a better job with covert biological warfare.  

Both sides don't want to go to war they are just testing each other at the moment. Biological warfare would be dangerous as india also can do that so no one wants to get involved in that. Already china is being blamed for the global pandemic covid virus with many saying it was created in chinese military lab.

The crazy thing is because both countries are nuclear powers with big arsenal of an array of weapons that can destroy large populations and cities including large hydrogen bomb missles so both countries do not want to get involved in that kinda conflict. Even at the border they are having to resort to using fists, swords, knives, batons, stones, rocks like pre-historic cavemen even though they have advanced weapons to take each to each out.

China is being the aggressor here probably trying to test Modi's resolve due to the kashmir issue. Pakistan probably strategised wtih china to attempt this to see how india reacts. If india does nothing then china will capture that land and wont let it go and together with pakistan will then have a chance to capture saichan glacier and rest of kashmir with a pincer movement. Jammu Kashmir Ladakh region is key to india's defense policy, they can not lose it under any cost as most of the water supply comes from there for one and they dont want to lose the high ground.

In terms of us Sikhs we should stay out of any conflict until we get concessions of self rule autonomy. Sikh leadership should make it clear no Sikh blood will go to defend the nation that split innocent Sikh blood in their thousands until guarantee's are put in place for Sikh self rule.

[GurjantGnostic]

39 minutes ago, genie said:

Sikh leadership should make it clear no Sikh blood will go to defend the nation that split innocent Sikh blood in their thousands until guarantee's are put in place for Sikh self rule.

Amen bro. 

[dallysingh101]

43 minutes ago, genie said:

In terms of us Sikhs we should stay out of any conflict until we get concessions of self rule autonomy. Sikh leadership should make it clear no Sikh blood will go to defend the nation that split innocent Sikh blood in their thousands until guarantee's are put in place for Sikh self rule.

I can't see the SGPC negotiate something like that myself. 

[dallysingh101]

1 hour ago, genie said:

Which will lead to declaration of war. Things can only escalate both china and india do not want to get into a full scale war especially as both are emerging superpowers.

According to this Indian media news report they say US intelligence has said 35 Chinese soldiers died from the brawl. No one is going to believe them until actual proof is given to the public.

 

Trump would be having a wet dream over a conflict between India and China right now. Someone they blame for covid gets preoccupied, and they'll use the opp to sell weapons to India. Remember that last visit by Trump, he was talking about selling billions worth of Apache helicopters and whatnot then. 

[genie]

14 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

Trump would be having a wet dream over a conflict between India and China right now. Someone they blame for covid gets preoccupied, and they'll use the opp to sell weapons to India. Remember that last visit by Trump, he was talking about selling billions worth of Apache helicopters and whatnot then. 

The white western world along with Trump is probably trying to encourage Modi to take a more aggressive stance with China. They will be double dealing as always trading with china meanwhile selling weapons to india.

If india was wise they would have allied with putins Russia for the long term rather than flirting with USA and drifting away from Russia over the decades. Russia is a major world power and in asia so crucially to have it on your side would be sensible. Pakistan has most to gain out of this, it has flirted with allying with Russia and has strong economic and military alliance with china as does Russia.

Meanwhile the covid deaths cases have not reached their peak in India with highest daily tolls going up day by day

https://www.dailysabah.com/world/india-covid-19-toll-sees-record-jump-of-2000-dead/news

[genie]

51 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

I can't see the SGPC negotiate something like that myself. 

Me neither that's why a new Sikh leadership is needed now one that doesn't sell out their own people and fights for interests of the Sikh kaum.

During the 1965 war with pakistan the Sikh leadership under akali dal told central govt in delhi they would encourage Sikhs to join the indian army to fight pakistan if delhi gave concessions to Sikhs, it seemed to work as they were then granted Sikh majority punjab along linguistic lines but at a cost of splitting punjab in 3 different entities.

If Indian Sikhs are to fight and shed blood for the indian nation it needs rewards and privileges written in law Otherwise there's no point. Likewise when Sikhs fought for Britian the only reason prime minister churchil gave concessions to Sikhs to carry the kirpan in UK was because the allied Sikh soldiers fought and died defending the UK against its foes in europe. Sikhs should have pressed for more concessions like a Sikh homeland but our leadership was too sold out and weak.