Possible Contemporary Painting of Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sahib Ji?

[GurjantGnostic]

Anand Karaj is necessary and specific. Not only spiritually is it different than marriage, but temporally. 

Just one example. If you're having children in Kalyug instead of taking in children in Kalyug you're already involving the Karam of that. If you're birthing that child into a house where just the mother say is prepared for Dharam Yudh and the father isn't then not only is the child born in Kalyug but might lose his mother to Dharam Yudh. 

It takes the mother and father both being Gursikhs to bring Gursikhs properly into the world according to the Karam of it. The consent structure. 

2 minutes ago, Suchi said:

Certainly the Nirankaris believe that to be the case and have created their own sect for the same.  There are/were claims to have met GGS ji in his new identity and seen his stomach scars.  Certainly his body was never found/cremated.

All the Gurus had such an impact as to leave no doubt. 

[GurjantGnostic]

It's not an issue for me one way or the other but I think embracing the natural form is in line with Sikhi more than piercing anything. 

[GurjantGnostic]

Just now, Suchi said:

I'm not sure I'm following you.  All his children had died or are you saying that wasn't the case?

No I'm saying that Anand Karaj is seperate, dinstinct and consensual. But you can look at the Gurus themselves. How can Guru Gobind Singh Ji give his childrens lives for a Paanth if Mata Sahib Kaur was not a Kaur?

[GurjantGnostic]

1 minute ago, Suchi said:

It's personal.  But the Chinese has created a whole medical science on piercings, namely acupuncture, where surgeries can be done with the patient fully awake and not sensitive to the pain due to having the relevant meridians switched off for as long as 2 hours.

I'm with all that. I wouldn't do anything permanent to myself though.

If they can Jaap while being sawn in half I'll be more impressed. Or go Alok. 

I guess to say it can be real and not needed by Guru Sahiban especially. 

[GurjantGnostic]

Like...Guru Sahiban aren't getting a covid shot ya know?

[GurjantGnostic]

Just now, Suchi said:

I don't see that it makes any difference as his sons themselves wanted to fight and asked their father's permission.  That is enough in Indian custom. 

Even in the Paanth some things are expected of everyone and everything is expected of some. Those of who everything is expected have specific requirements and initiations. 

[GurjantGnostic]

1 minute ago, Suchi said:

Have any in contemporary Sikhism displayed any magical powers that you know of? 

Those are experienced by many of many backgrounds but rarely publically. And the smart ones recognize they witnessed Akal not themselves. 

[GurjantGnostic]

3 hours ago, Suchi said:

I don't see that it makes any difference as his sons themselves wanted to fight and asked their father's permission.  That is enough in Indian custom. 

 

[dharamyudh]

19 hours ago, Suchi said:

Actually I've seen a few pictures of Guru Gobind Singh ji with tilak and earrings.  I've also seen his census entry describing himself as a Hindu Khatri.  From other information I've read, it was the British who deemed the Adi Granth as the Guru as they didn't want another living Guru to expand and eventually challenge them by recruiting more Hindus against them and overthrowing them.  So they wanted a way to create a divide and went about it in a very systematic way and eventually achieved their ends.  The Nirankaris were in dispute with them as they believed that GGS ji had retained the Guruship and not died in 1708, and produced various evidences as proof which they got discredited.   

As for the wearing of earrings, it is in the Hindu teachings that piercings are beneficial for extra sensitivity as these were carried out in acupressure regions.  The same for having tilak (protect pineal gland) and toe rings for married women.  So have a scientific basis.

As for marrying within the Gotra regardless of religion, this was all changed by the Brits to make strict classifications so that they could decide on how to organise and control the masses, as has been reported by the BBC as well as extensively researched.

 

Brits medaled so hard that they made Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj the Guru? Please provide that info. If we had a living Guru we would know lol. We can look at the tension between the Tat Khalsa and Bandai Khalsa. Additionally, Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji most likely probably didn't wear earrings, but Singhs definitely did though, especially during the Sikh Raaj. Most of the pictures of the Gurus were painted amidst the Khalsa Raaj with exception to the Nanded picture that was displayed above. 

EDIT

Forgot to add. We have some contemporary images of the Guru, particularly Sri Guru Hargobind Sahib Ji Maharaj and Sri Guru Tegh Bahadur Sahib Ji Maharaj:

SatGuru Sri Guru Hargobind Sahib Ji Maharaj. The Sixth Sovereign: 

  

 

SatGuru Sri Guru Tegh Bahadur Sahib Ji Maharaj. The Ninth Sovereign

 

[dharamyudh]

People forget that the Sikh kaum has our oral history that was passed down and still present within the Dal Panth. It was only because of the initiatives of Akaali Baba Rattan Singh Ji Bhangu, the grandson of Akaali Baba Mehtab Singh Ji Bhangu, with the panth parkash along with other historical texts at the time was that this stuff was documented. Think about it. The fact that people try and claim Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji Maharaj, the one who sacrificed his entire family for the Khalsa panth would remain hidden and leave his beloved panth without guidance is absurd. Especially considering the fact that something as important such as the passing of the Guruship wouldn't have gone unknown.