Questions about the general psyche of indians in generals

[Guest Jasmeet Singh]

This applies to Punjabi’s too. 
 

why is lying compulsively and being dishonest and integral part of our culture. We consistently lie about everything from the trivial little lies to big white lies. The whole indoctrination of being “tej” from the other person by our parents, only a nicer way of saying how we should strive to be so dishonest and deceptive to get our “matlab” from someone rather than creating some actual value and having something good to offer. 
 

I came to Canada as an international student and just as any other student I’m currently on my work permit and at a mercy of a crooked employer for my PR, and being bled dry for it. He’s a “sayana” for which I thought he’d be not be as bad, but is crooked to the core. Its been driving me nuts and giving me really bad anxiety. I’ve met many monays, gursikhs, hindus, and I’ve seen that behavior listed above manifest in every single one of them. I’ve yet to come across a single person who I can say could be a good role model. From what I’ve seen, here are the stereotypes I’ve formed regarding people in our diaspora:

punjabi: tend to be overt in exploitation, don’t hide it at all. Lie to your face. Know they can do it and get away with it. I rented a room with this guy from which I had to leave half way through the month cause apparently the Punjabi family that lived there didn’t own the house and they didn’t tell me that and the true owners didn’t approve of me staying there, I paid rent in full and since I had leave half way through the month when the real owners found out so I asked for the half back and I didn’t get it. Typical “de dangey” everytime for months until I gave up. 
 

gujaratis: worst of them all, very cunning and the absolute true consmen. They can’t get enough of playing stupid little games. Telling others people stuff to others, and just causing unnecessary drama all the <banned word filter activated> time. Literally, they don’t get tired of it. That’s where the “scammer indian” stereotype comes from I guess.

I’d like to know what’s all y’all opinion about what I just shared. Where do y’all think we went wrong? How did it all started and our values deteriorated and we landed ourselves in the mess that we are in. especially for us sikhs, where our gurus have set countless examples through their actions as to how to maintain integrity and manifest a strong moral fiber in the face of a torturous death. 
 

thank you for reading. 
 

also, when I mention Punjabi’s I’m referring to both sikh and Hindus.

[Guest daas guest singh]

19 hours ago, Guest Jasmeet Singh said:

This applies to Punjabi’s too. 
 

why is lying compulsively and being dishonest and integral part of our culture. We consistently lie about everything from the trivial little lies to big white lies. The whole indoctrination of being “tej” from the other person by our parents, only a nicer way of saying how we should strive to be so dishonest and deceptive to get our “matlab” from someone rather than creating some actual value and having something good to offer. 
 

I came to Canada as an international student and just as any other student I’m currently on my work permit and at a mercy of a crooked employer for my PR, and being bled dry for it. He’s a “sayana” for which I thought he’d be not be as bad, but is crooked to the core. Its been driving me nuts and giving me really bad anxiety. I’ve met many monays, gursikhs, hindus, and I’ve seen that behavior listed above manifest in every single one of them. I’ve yet to come across a single person who I can say could be a good role model. From what I’ve seen, here are the stereotypes I’ve formed regarding people in our diaspora:

punjabi: tend to be overt in exploitation, don’t hide it at all. Lie to your face. Know they can do it and get away with it. I rented a room with this guy from which I had to leave half way through the month cause apparently the Punjabi family that lived there didn’t own the house and they didn’t tell me that and the true owners didn’t approve of me staying there, I paid rent in full and since I had leave half way through the month when the real owners found out so I asked for the half back and I didn’t get it. Typical “de dangey” everytime for months until I gave up. 
 

gujaratis: worst of them all, very cunning and the absolute true consmen. They can’t get enough of playing stupid little games. Telling others people stuff to others, and just causing unnecessary drama all the <banned word filter activated> time. Literally, they don’t get tired of it. That’s where the “scammer indian” stereotype comes from I guess.

I’d like to know what’s all y’all opinion about what I just shared. Where do y’all think we went wrong? How did it all started and our values deteriorated and we landed ourselves in the mess that we are in. especially for us sikhs, where our gurus have set countless examples through their actions as to how to maintain integrity and manifest a strong moral fiber in the face of a torturous death. 
 

thank you for reading. 
 

also, when I mention Punjabi’s I’m referring to both sikh and Hindus.

My Opinion on this : You are absolutely friggin correct,and i live in India so i know for sure what ur saying is correct and i face such people everyday,so yeah it is absolutely true,we indians are moving away from our dharmic sidhhants and principals set up by all our different dharams,its ulta these days u know,them gorey are adopting puratan indian lifestyles,doing yoga,leaving alcohol,ciggaretes,being good ,and we Indians are going the ulte/puthhe paase and embracing all of the things they are leaving,so much for being Satvic and Sadhu bande

Sadi Reputation eddan hi nahi badnaam te kharaab aa

[MisterrSingh]

5hitty people doing 5hitty things. They can't operate on the basis of integrity and the basic values of decency. It's always, "How much can I wring from this person?" These types of people, unfortunately, only understand and fear force. Verbal means of interaction and compromise like a human being are considered to be signs of weakness. Sadly, the only way to get through to these cunning yet cowardly people is by, temporarily, being a bigger b*****d than them.

[Guest]

the 2 phrases I heard from my mom since childhood : 

"tere warge nyaane hatha te saro jamaunde fir de aa" 

"hathi laa ke pairi bujhaunde fir de aa" 

lmao

and this attitude of "you can't do it" . Punjabi and Indian families in general are biggest sabotagers of their children's confidence lmao. I won't ever tell my kid he can't do  it