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40 minutes ago, Akalifauj said:

Can you provide Gurbani quotes to back this statement up.  

Has he said something that contradicts Sikhi? I don't know. I know of him and his general philosophy, which I assume is derived from the Vedic framework, but I can't say I've watched any of his videos meticulously enough to see if he's promoting an anti-Gurmat narrative. If he has said something that contradicts Sikhi, then I will retract my statement about his ideology not contradicting Sikhi. 

Has he said anything that contradicts Sikhi? If so, that information must be presented. If you don't like him because he's not Sikh, then be open and state that as well. Don't give the impression that I'm wholeheartedly endorsing someone when I have no more than a surface understanding of his intentions. If you know details about his heresy, then they need to be highlighted here.

When kathavachaks refer to terms and philosophies that obviously aren't directly tuks from Gurbani but are derived from Dharmic sources -- which most of them do because part of their training is to study Indian scriptures -- then I assume that's par for the course, isn't it?

I was listening to katha by Giani Pinderpal Singh where he started by describing the different types of guru (lower case) / teacher described in the Hindu granths. That info was used as the underlying basis from which he launched into Sikh-specific vichaar about our Gurus. So, it stands to reason there's information that's cross referenced. These gianis aren't referring to Vedic concepts they've manufactured themselves, are they? They must come from some other non-Sikh source?

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4 hours ago, MisterrSingh said:

Has he said something that contradicts Sikhi? I don't know. I know of him and his general philosophy, which I assume is derived from the Vedic framework, but I can't say I've watched any of his videos meticulously enough to see if he's promoting an anti-Gurmat narrative. If he has said something that contradicts Sikhi, then I will retract my statement about his ideology not contradicting Sikhi. 

Has he said anything that contradicts Sikhi? If so, that information must be presented. If you don't like him because he's not Sikh, then be open and state that as well. Don't give the impression that I'm wholeheartedly endorsing someone when I have no more than a surface understanding of his intentions. If you know details about his heresy, then they need to be highlighted here.

When kathavachaks refer to terms and philosophies that obviously aren't directly tuks from Gurbani but are derived from Dharmic sources -- which most of them do because part of their training is to study Indian scriptures -- then I assume that's par for the course, isn't it?

I was listening to katha by Giani Pinderpal Singh where he started by describing the different types of guru (lower case) / teacher described in the Hindu granths. That info was used as the underlying basis from which he launched into Sikh-specific vichaar about our Gurus. So, it stands to reason there's information that's cross referenced. These gianis aren't referring to Vedic concepts they've manufactured themselves, are they? They must come from some other non-Sikh source?

You are right.  It will be time consuming to go through Gurbani and find lines to support concepts i said Gurbani supports:

Like how we have 5 bodies. Food body, energy body, mental etc, u k ow the sukhsam and asthool sareers that can actually feel pain in hell etc.

That we are currently in the 84th creation. 

That 108 bead malas are used cuz we have 108 chakras we can control and stengthen.

Its a lot easier to make stuff up and discuss irrelevant stuff and get mad when someone challenges me on disrespecting Gurbani.  Plus I said Gurbani supports them.  So everyone else stfu.  

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