Islam religion of Satan?

[mahanpaapi]

[mahanpaapi]

 

[Guest]

6 hours ago, MuslimNeighbour said:

Glass house much, show me the logic in Sikhi? People use logic and rational to bring people to Islam but look who's talking, a guy who belongs to a faith he would never otherwise look twice at if he were not born in to it and has ZERO way of presenting it as the truth outside of 'feelings bro'.

ask any average person down the street in UK too , who they view more favorably. A desert oppressive cult which is creating violence and unrest around the world OR a faith that grew in the land of five rivers and survived and thrived despite being SUPPRESSED by the desert cult .

Look at average comments on youtube . and see how people view islam and how people view sikhism. Thats more than enough 

Guys all over the world do convert to sikhism , look at white converts in US , UK . or in Brazil and even Chile now 

Islam wouldn't have even half of territory it has today if NOT for the sword . Thats the bitter pill you cannot swallow . Sword and not the Pen has been the reason why islam spread so far. 

see the thing is after growing up , if a sikh guy doesn't like sikhism , he can anyday cut his hair . sikhism gives him the choice daily. muslim guy can never grow his foreskin back. It was a faith imposed on him at childhood .

Then there're sharia laws like cutting hands and legs from opposite side, stoning people to death, throwing gays off buildings, all violence embedded in islam.  WHAT FACE DO YOU HAVE LEFT TO DEBATE WITH US ? 

[Guest]

7 hours ago, MuslimNeighbour said:

This is a Sikh forum you should be answering my questions on Sikhi and teaching me your ways instead of asking me things mostly

If it was the other way around, if this were an islamic forum , and there were a dozen of sikhs here, we would be instantly blocked , or at most after a few kuffar posts.

The fact that you are insulting sikhs here and still not blocked is the evidence of the tolerant nature and beauty of sikhism.

Oh wait , will you now say like Zakir Naik "we're confident of our religion , 2+2 = 4 and not 5 , and thats why can't tolerate 2+2 = 3 "  

[Shaheed4life]

On 7/27/2020 at 5:23 AM, MuslimNeighbour said:

Sikhs believe Muhammad was a Prophet who got lost in his own ego or something along those lines. Did WaheGuru then make an error electing such a man to be a Prophet? Does WaheGuru not know the future?

Sikhs believe in Satan?

Interesting stuff.

Waheguru did not make an error.The people of earth did.They had forgotten the ways of God.Thus,God sent multiple messengers  to spread the message of God the truth.But they themselves got trapped in the worldly affairs so that was THEIR error not Gods.

Now about Satan,In Sikhism we acknowledge the existence of such creatures for example devils like Satan,Angels and other beings.But we do not believe them to be as powerful or more powerful than the Supreme Lord.

[Shaheed4life]

10 hours ago, MuslimNeighbour said:

Oh the old moving Mecca in his foot's direction trick, nice one lad. My personal favourite parts of SIkh history are the battles of 1 Sikh vs 10 gajillion Mughal armed with Nukes. Well since the best scholars couldn't convince Nanak do tell me lad what were Nanak's counter arguments? Is his Parchaar lost in time because I've yet to seeing anything of the sort, wonder if he told them about the 5 K's, oh wait he couldn't because it required 9 Gurus down the line to come up with that one.

Guru Nanak Dev Ji's parchaar is not lost in time.It did not take 10 Gurus to come up with the 5ks.The 5ks are part of the recognition of the Khalsa Panth.The Khalsa Panth,as mentioned by Guru Gobind Singh Ji, was established on the order of God.It wasn't the case where it took 10 Gurus to simply come up with it.The truth is that the 5ks and Rehat Maryada of the Khalsa Panth was given to the Sikhs when God felt it was right.The evidence from Sikhism is Agaya Bhaiye Akaal Ki Tabhe Chalayo Panth.This translates to Upon receiving the order from God,the Khalsa Panth has been established.

[Shaheed4life]

@MuslimNeighbour Hope I answered your question.Look forward to your reply

[jkvlondon]

16 hours ago, MuslimNeighbour said:

Oh the old moving Mecca in his foot's direction trick, nice one lad. My personal favourite parts of SIkh history are the battles of 1 Sikh vs 10 gajillion Mughal armed with Nukes. Well since the best scholars couldn't convince Nanak do tell me lad what were Nanak's counter arguments? Is his Parchaar lost in time because I've yet to seeing anything of the sort, wonder if he told them about the 5 K' 's, oh wait he couldn't because it required 9 Gurus down the line to come up with that one.

the Ka-baa's priests were accepting booty from invasions and murders in order to 'cleanse'  it  and the perps of the sins commited  and Guru Nanak Dev ji taught Qazi Rukh uddin  and the other scholars there they Allah does not accept such haram offerings , that thereis no  act that they could do to remove the sins commited; he advised them to never accept such offerings if they wanted to not incur Allah's wrath and to advise those bringing such offerings to stop their crimes . The qazis were told  that Allah had no direction of address, that he lives in the heart of the pure , that living via an honest livelihood is the true way to practise islam , to not covet or steal from others (i.e. ignore hadiths that invoke corruption as permissible).

[Koi]

@MuslimNeighbour - in many threads you have been answered again and again, but you continue to derail the topics each and every time. Now, in all fairness, that's not entirely your fault, we all do it. And i agree with you, that this is a Sikh forum, and your questions about Sikhi should be answered here without you being personally berated. 100% agree with you on that.

So, here's what I propose: YOU pick the question, YOU pick the topic, YOU start the thread. And, without descending in to any personal attacks, we will collectively answer them for you.

You can't get much fairer than that. You've now been given this opportunity. Never again in the future say you weren't given a chance. Look forward to your response...

And to the rest of the sangat ji, please try and keep it civil and stick to the point. It's such a playground debate tactic when this guy goes off point and we take the bait, then acts like he's being attacked by everyone. 

Intellectual points made with proof will put this "guest" to sleep  

[brotha]

5 hours ago, Koi said:

@MuslimNeighbour - in many threads you have been answered again and again, but you continue to derail the topics each and every time. Now, in all fairness, that's not entirely your fault, we all do it. And i agree with you, that this is a Sikh forum, and your questions about Sikhi should be answered here without you being personally berated. 100% agree with you on that.

So, here's what I propose: YOU pick the question, YOU pick the topic, YOU start the thread. And, without descending in to any personal attacks, we will collectively answer them for you.

You can't get much fairer than that. You've now been given this opportunity. Never again in the future say you weren't given a chance. Look forward to your response...

And to the rest of the sangat ji, please try and keep it civil and stick to the point. It's such a playground debate tactic when this guy goes off point and we take the bait, then acts like he's being attacked by everyone. 

Intellectual points made with proof will put this "guest" to sleep  

Brother Koi,

it seems you have not recognized what means to be a muslim. They have been brainwashed in such a way right from their day 1 of birth, that no matter howsoever one may reason with them, they will never ever accept, for the moment they recognize how much damage and atrocities they have inflicted upon mankind, that very moment they will step back in shame for belonging to such a diabolical culture.

Not that the rest of the world does not respect them for what they are, but, they themselves by harming others without any reason, they are disliked as "people".... the history is the proof, see how many absurd wars, how many killings, just in the name of  such an entity, who they themselves have not seen but yet they are induced to believe, that they have to kill others....what a disgrace

How can they even call themselves religious? That too, when the base of any religion is mercy, forgiveness, and tolerance towards all, irrespective of caste, color, and  creed.

And this is what sikhee can be proud of, we are taught that all have His Light, even in SGGS, the divine is named as Allah and Khuda, which are just names like any others, of that creative power, which we call Satnam, God, Lord, or Waheguru among so many others.

What else can one want?  So much respect given to the name of their divinity, yet they still thirst for blood. How can someone fall so low?

For example, we all know the Sun is high in the sky, isn´t it? So what difference does it make by saying or repeating the sun is the highest in the sky? Will the sun fall down or get to a lower level by not saying so? 

It would be stupid, isn´t it?

So if anyone says Allah hu Akbar, well that is fine, but by others not saying so, that power of Allah, God, Waheguru will not diminish, nor will ever fall down, for it is great by its own nature, and not by buttering it. 

Just as  we see in the Bani: aapeenay aap sajeeo, apeenay racheeo Nao

The sun is as it is, so is that divinity, it is great by itself , it does not make any difference to it, whether we say anything or keep quite, it will nevertheless give its Light upon all in same quantity and intensity.

in a similar way, whethe we say anything or not about that supreme truth, it will not stop giving its love, forgiveness  or mercy on the souls, for all souls are a part from IT, for all are as rays of that same One Sun.

This is the greatness of Sikhee, it broadens one mind and makes softer our hearts, for in all is present His Noor.

It is fine you are giving this guy a chance, but when Guru Sahiban themselves came on earth, and could not affect with positivity their hearts, how can any of us limited beings try to make them see their reality of evilness?

They inflicted pain on THEM,  so it is better to leave them alone as they are, we are not to change them in any way, except that of making them realize, that they are a part of this world, so they have to become good human beings first, and be respectful to all others, for unless one is not a good human being, one can not enter heaven.

If one´s aim is to merge and become one with that Supreme truth, which is an infinite Ocean of love, mercy, and forgiveness, which means total purity, so how can we ever become one with IT, by killing and hurting others deliberately?

It is utter madness. 

It is such a pity, how these people are madly influenced into wickedness, there has to be a deep reform and  throughly cleansing in their lookout towards others.

Congrats anyhow Koi for your good intentions, let us now see how does he/they respond .