there used to be a covered pathway from Kaulsar to amritsar

[shastarSingh]

Guru Hargobind Sahib told His Sikhs to do ishnaan in Kaulsar sarovar before doing ishnaan in Amritsar sarovar.

There used to be a surang connecting Kaulsar to Amritsar. Male Sikhs with their wet clothes used to use this surang to reach Amritsar from Kaulsar.

This surang was destroyed about 110 years back.

There r still many bazurg sikhs who hv heard about this surang from their parents.

[shastarSingh]

23 hours ago, shastarSingh said:

Guru Hargobind Sahib told His Sikhs to do ishnaan in Kaulsar sarovar before doing ishnaan in Amritsar sarovar.

There used to be a surang connecting Kaulsar to Amritsar. Male Sikhs with their wet clothes used to use this surang to reach Amritsar from Kaulsar.

This surang was destroyed about 110 years back.

There r still many bazurg sikhs who hv heard about this surang from their parents.

sorry for correction in the information it wasn't a surang but a covered pathway above ground level from Kaulsar to Amritsar.

[chatanga1]

22 hours ago, shastarSingh said:

sorry for correction in the information it wasn't a surang but a covered pathway above ground level from Kaulsar to Amritsar.

 

Up until the 1950s Sachkhand Sri HariMandir Sahib was open. There were many walkways and bunge around it. In the 1950s SGPC decided to wall off Sachkhand Sri HariMandir Sahib and enclose it. This most likely was what ended that particular walkway from Kaulsar to Amrit Sarovar.

PS I went for darshan of Sri Atal Rai Gurdwara when we went to Darbar Sahib 2 years ago. It was only then I "discovered" where Kaulsar was, and then went there. It is really tucked away. Even my mom wasn't aware of it. For most people, its ishnaan, darshan of Sachkhand Sri HariMandir Sahib, Sri Akal Takht SAhib and then home.

[shastarSingh]

24 minutes ago, chatanga1 said:

 

Up until the 1950s Sachkhand Sri HariMandir Sahib was open. There were many walkways and bunge around it. In the 1950s SGPC decided to wall off Sachkhand Sri HariMandir Sahib and enclose it. This most likely was what ended that particular walkway from Kaulsar to Amrit Sarovar.

PS I went for darshan of Sri Atal Rai Gurdwara when we went to Darbar Sahib 2 years ago. It was only then I "discovered" where Kaulsar was, and then went there. It is really tucked away. Even my mom wasn't aware of it. For most people, its ishnaan, darshan of Sachkhand Sri HariMandir Sahib, Sri Akal Takht SAhib and then home.

as per information given to me this walkway was destroyed around 1910s

[shastarSingh]

19 hours ago, shastarSingh said:

as per information given to me this walkway was destroyed around 1910s

sorry for correction again

it may hv happened in 1950s

[shastarSingh]

2 hours ago, shastarSingh said:

sorry for correction again

it may hv happened in 1950s

Removal of this walkway has led to sangat completely forgeting to do ishnaan at Kaulsar.

We need to bring this tradition back to life again.

[puzzled]

Amritsar used have many underground tunnels before, they were built during the Sikh empire period. Amritsar also had a moat built around it with crocodiles and two massive walls around it with several gates, Amritsar was a proper fortified city, a fort in itself. Theres also a underground tunnel in Gobindgarh Qila believed to lead all the way to Lahore. Im guessing these tunnels are still there?  

 

Here's a view of the walled city of Amritsar, you can see the wall around it with some tall buildings behind it, and the moat   1828

 

 from another angle  done my a local Punjabi artist 1828

Its a shame Amritsar lost it fortified appearance, It looked like a proper Qila, The British destroyed much of it when they took over and the remaining was destroyed by the locals. 

[Jonny101]

4 hours ago, puzzled said:

Amritsar used have many underground tunnels before, they were built during the Sikh empire period. Amritsar also had a moat built around it with crocodiles and two massive walls around it with several gates, Amritsar was a proper fortified city, a fort in itself. Theres also a underground tunnel in Gobindgarh Qila believed to lead all the way to Lahore. Im guessing these tunnels are still there?  

 

Here's a view of the walled city of Amritsar, you can see the wall around it with some tall buildings behind it, and the moat   1828

 

 from another angle  done my a local Punjabi artist 1828

Its a shame Amritsar lost it fortified appearance, It looked like a proper Qila, The British destroyed much of it when they took over and the remaining was destroyed by the locals. 

Punjab had so many forts before Maharaja Ranjit Singh took over. The Sikh misls had created hundreds of forts big and small all over Punjab. The biggest of them was the one built by the Ramgarhia misl in Amritsar. But they were all dismantled or destroyed as Maharaja Ranjit Singh took their territories. This practice of destroying forts was called 'slighting' in which the forts of enemies were destroyed after their capture. This of course was done for strategic reasons to prevent those forts from being recaptured in future.

[Jonny101]

On 8/3/2020 at 12:38 PM, chatanga1 said:

 

Up until the 1950s Sachkhand Sri HariMandir Sahib was open. There were many walkways and bunge around it. In the 1950s SGPC decided to wall off Sachkhand Sri HariMandir Sahib and enclose it. This most likely was what ended that particular walkway from Kaulsar to Amrit Sarovar.

PS I went for darshan of Sri Atal Rai Gurdwara when we went to Darbar Sahib 2 years ago. It was only then I "discovered" where Kaulsar was, and then went there. It is really tucked away. Even my mom wasn't aware of it. For most people, its ishnaan, darshan of Sachkhand Sri HariMandir Sahib, Sri Akal Takht SAhib and then home.

Seeing what happened in 1984 it is actually good the complex was walled like a fort during the 1950s. If there were many walkways in 1984 it would have been harder for the Singhs to defend it.

[puzzled]

12 hours ago, Jonny101 said:

Punjab had so many forts before Maharaja Ranjit Singh took over. The Sikh misls had created hundreds of forts big and small all over Punjab. The biggest of them was the one built by the Ramgarhia misl in Amritsar. But they were all dismantled or destroyed as Maharaja Ranjit Singh took their territories. This practice of destroying forts was called 'slighting' in which the forts of enemies were destroyed after their capture. This of course was done for strategic reasons to prevent those forts from being recaptured in future.

Yeah he demolished the ramgharia qila ramrauni qila, but I'm pretty sure it wasnt the biggest, the biggest and mightiest fort in the region was/is Gobindgarh Qila.  Which was initially built by the Bhangi misls and when he captured Amritsar from the Bhangis he further fortified the fort. Ramrauni qila was a inner city fort. While Gobindgarh qila was built outside the walled city of amritsar for the protection of the city, it was like the first defense a invader would of faced. 

Though he demolished some he did keep some and further fortified them, like gobindgarh qila. Amritsar had a wall built around it by the bhangis and he added another stronger wall around it and a moat. 

It's a shame we dont hear much about the sikh misls, for most sikhs sikh rule started with M.Ranjit singh, when the misls had already been ruling much of Punjab since around 1750s maybe even earlier? 

Tbh when the sgpc demolished the bungas around harmandir sahib they only made it more weaker, these bungas were a defense and were tightly built together, very congested. Had these bungas still been there then to tanks would of been able to enter harmandir sahib complex! It would of been impossible. These bungas also used to have many escape routes. By demolishing them and building a wide entrance they only made the defence weaker. The bungas would of also provided many spots for the singhs to shoot from, that was the whole point of the bungas 

People in the past were a lot  more intelligent and strategic when it came to building this stuff.