Partition of Punjab

[JSinghnz]

5 minutes ago, jkvlondon said:

did you actually read the twitter quoted booksabove  where it states clearly army and police did the most damage by violence and looting then Nehru claimed that it was unruly sikhs doing the violence

I haven't. End of the day I am discussing how the British were responsible for this genocide and no one ever held them to account for this.

[jkvlondon]

1 minute ago, JSinghnz said:

I haven't. End of the day I am discussing how the British were responsible for this genocide and no one ever held them to account for this.

given it took over one hundred years to get any kind of apology for Jallianwala Bagh massacre , nothing yet for Komagata Maru bloodbath  it is unlikely these leeches will say anything or do anything for the two million killed , 10 million displaced

[proactive]

On 8/14/2020 at 10:26 PM, JSinghnz said:

Sikhs lost so much during partition.Did any Sikh organization ask the British government to compensate for the carnage?

You make an interesting point. There are two cases for compensation-;

 

1. Any descendant of Maharaja Duleep Singh could take the British govt to the international court of justice for compensation for the British betrayal of its treaty of Bhairowal where the British were to only rule Punjab up until Maharaja Duleep Singh came of age to rule. The second Anglo-Sikh war was firstly a mutiny against the authority of the Maharaja in Multan although it was the British who were acting on the Maharaja's authority who were attacked in Multan. Later the Sikh army revolted under Chattar Singh and Sher Singh but that was again not the Maharaja's doing. After the British had defeated the Sikh army, they were still duty bound to return rule back to Maharaja Duleep Singh. But they did not and they annexed the Punjab. A descendant of the Maharaja could take the present British govt to court. Although no court can undo the loss of the Sikh kingdom, yet taking the British govt to court would be a huge embarrassment for them and for one make these colonists who destroyed the bright future of all Sikh generations from 1849 onwards pay for their crime. 

 

2. The descendents of those who lost lands in Pakistan and received less land than they lost could make a claim against the British govt. Radcliffe was acting on the orders of the British govt and as the British govt was duty bound to protect the lives and property of the inhabitants of Punjab, then the losses sustained by those who lost lands and lives in 1947 are the responsibility of the British govt. Although it could be argued that the British responsibility ended on 15 August so all lives lost before that were their responsibility but the loss of land is down to the british. Many of the richer Sikhs lost tens of thousands of acres and were only given a few hundred in return. 

[jkvlondon]

12 minutes ago, proactive said:

You make an interesting point. There are two cases for compensation-;

 

1. Any descendant of Maharaja Duleep Singh could take the British govt to the international court of justice for compensation for the British betrayal of its treaty of Bhairowal where the British were to only rule Punjab up until Maharaja Duleep Singh came of age to rule. The second Anglo-Sikh war was firstly a mutiny against the authority of the Maharaja in Multan although it was the British who were acting on the Maharaja's authority who were attacked in Multan. Later the Sikh army revolted under Chattar Singh and Sher Singh but that was again not the Maharaja's doing. After the British had defeated the Sikh army, they were still duty bound to return rule back to Maharaja Duleep Singh. But they did not and they annexed the Punjab. A descendant of the Maharaja could take the present British govt to court. Although no court can undo the loss of the Sikh kingdom, yet taking the British govt to court would be a huge embarrassment for them and for one make these colonists who destroyed the bright future of all Sikh generations from 1849 onwards pay for their crime. 

 

2. The descendents of those who lost lands in Pakistan and received less land than they lost could make a claim against the British govt. Radcliffe was acting on the orders of the British govt and as the British govt was duty bound to protect the lives and property of the inhabitants of Punjab, then the losses sustained by those who lost lands and lives in 1947 are the responsibility of the British govt. Although it could be argued that the British responsibility ended on 15 August so all lives lost before that were their responsibility but the loss of land is down to the british. Many of the richer Sikhs lost tens of thousands of acres and were only given a few hundred in return. 

1. only descendants are english maid's illegimate son with Duleep Singh  would you trust him to do the right thing for sikhs?

2. refugees would be able to provide the kind of paperwork that these countries would insist on ??

[JSinghnz]

1 hour ago, jkvlondon said:

given it took over one hundred years to get any kind of apology for Jallianwala Bagh massacre , nothing yet for Komagata Maru bloodbath  it is unlikely these leeches will say anything or do anything for the two million killed , 10 million displaced

You are too far behind the rest of the world. So for you information only

 

[jkvlondon]

4 minutes ago, JSinghnz said:

You are too far behind the rest of the world. So for you information only

 

canada turned them back and apologized for their part but the British nation hasn't and they are the ones who machinegunned  our Singhs done when they were disembarking with Guru ji  so NO I am correct in my premise

[JSinghnz]

1 hour ago, proactive said:

You make an interesting point. There are two cases for compensation-;

 

1. Any descendant of Maharaja Duleep Singh could take the British govt to the international court of justice for compensation for the British betrayal of its treaty of Bhairowal where the British were to only rule Punjab up until Maharaja Duleep Singh came of age to rule. The second Anglo-Sikh war was firstly a mutiny against the authority of the Maharaja in Multan although it was the British who were acting on the Maharaja's authority who were attacked in Multan. Later the Sikh army revolted under Chattar Singh and Sher Singh but that was again not the Maharaja's doing. After the British had defeated the Sikh army, they were still duty bound to return rule back to Maharaja Duleep Singh. But they did not and they annexed the Punjab. A descendant of the Maharaja could take the present British govt to court. Although no court can undo the loss of the Sikh kingdom, yet taking the British govt to court would be a huge embarrassment for them and for one make these colonists who destroyed the bright future of all Sikh generations from 1849 onwards pay for their crime. 

 

2. The descendents of those who lost lands in Pakistan and received less land than they lost could make a claim against the British govt. Radcliffe was acting on the orders of the British govt and as the British govt was duty bound to protect the lives and property of the inhabitants of Punjab, then the losses sustained by those who lost lands and lives in 1947 are the responsibility of the British govt. Although it could be argued that the British responsibility ended on 15 August so all lives lost before that were their responsibility but the loss of land is down to the british. Many of the richer Sikhs lost tens of thousands of acres and were only given a few hundred in return. 

The lines of division of the country were drawn in July 1947. The British were directly responsible for this as the populations could not be moved in such a short time period. As any one ever held them accountable for this?

Still haven't received any answers?

[JSinghnz]

1 minute ago, jkvlondon said:

canada turned them back and apologized for their part but the British nationa hasn't and they are the ones who machinegunned  our Singhs done when they were disembarking with Guru ji  so NO I am correct.

As anyone ever asked them to apologize for this? 

[jkvlondon]

3 minutes ago, JSinghnz said:

As anyone ever asked them to apologize for this? 

Not sure but I think it would be better to have the true history of the British atrocities around the globe need to be added as a compulsary component of history as it directly impacted both world wars . Then the youngster will pressure their government.

[JSinghnz]

6 minutes ago, jkvlondon said:

Not sure but I think it would be better to have the true history of the British atrocities around the globe need to be added as a compulsary component of history as it directly impacted both world wars . Then the youngster will pressure their government.

The questions have to be asked now. The new generation doesn't have a clue about this.