horses are extremely spiritual animals

[Koi]

@MuslimNeighbour, a couple of things.

Firstly,  when I asked you a direct question, on whether or not an omnipotent God could enter creation if he so wishes, you brushed it to the side saying you don't care. Well, this is an important question, because the answer will potentially undermine your whole understanding of God. If you say he cannot, then simply put, you do not believe God is omnipotent. If you do, however, agree, then you have to postulate that God can manifest as a human, whether it's Guru Nanak Maharaj, the Avtars, Jesus etc. But your unwillingness to answer a direct question indicates deception. Please show some intellectual integrity and answer the question. We believe an omnipotent God can manifest as a human in his creation, because he's OMNIPOTENT. What's your opinion?

Secondly, on the point of Jesus not claiming to be God. Of course he did. Have you even read the bible? If you did, you'd know that Jesus did claim to be God on many occasions. This is in fact such an obvious thing. 

[Koi]

1 hour ago, MuslimNeighbour said:

So just some casual racism hey and that from a female Sikh. Hindus also think they defeat people in arguments with their cow God rhetoric, you're all welcome to dream. Irony is you can't defeat anyone in an argument because Sikhi does not possess any argument for it's truth, it's all about feelings and tingling sensations. Come to think of it Hinduism also doesn't have an argument for it's truth, another similarity to add to the list between Hinduism and Sikhi, which apparently has no connection to Hinduism.

 

And Islam does, does it? Please do enlighten us on this special truth which only Islam claims to have?

[Kaurr]

1 hour ago, MuslimNeighbour said:

So just some casual racism hey and that from a female Sikh. Hindus also think they defeat people in arguments with their cow God rhetoric, you're all welcome to dream. Irony is you can't defeat anyone in an argument because Sikhi does not possess any argument for it's truth, it's all about feelings and tingling sensations. Come to think of it Hinduism also doesn't have an argument for it's truth, another similarity to add to the list between Hinduism and Sikhi, which apparently has no connection to Hinduism.

 

All religions have some similarities. 

[jkvlondon]

21 minutes ago, Koi said:

@MuslimNeighbour, a couple of things.

Firstly,  when I asked you a direct question, on whether or not an omnipotent God could enter creation if he so wishes, you brushed it to the side saying you don't care. Well, this is an important question, because the answer will potentially undermine your whole understanding of God. If you say he cannot, then simply put, you do not believe God is omnipotent. If you do, however, agree, then you have to postulate that God can manifest as a human, whether it's Guru Nanak Maharaj, the Avtars, Jesus etc. But your unwillingness to answer a direct question indicates deception. Please show some intellectual integrity and answer the question. We believe an omnipotent God can manifest as a human in his creation, because he's OMNIPOTENT. What's your opinion?

Secondly, on the point of Jesus not claiming to be God. Of course he did. Have you even read the bible? If you did, you'd know that Jesus did claim to be God on many occasions. This is in fact such an obvious thing. 

intellectual integrity implies that there is some intellect there, I fear he is incapable of processing a single thing  beyond his premeditated script ; which we are not running along  with that's why he slips the questions then claims some sort of 'victory' . pathetic really

[jkvlondon]

Muslimneighbour  a few points of similaritiy between Islam and Hinduism

1. reliance on scriptures not written at all by founders

2. staunch support of stone worship  , kissed a meteor lately  or thrown stones at a pillar ?

3. claiming to be monotheistic but rely on pantheistic entites

4. bloodline of priests which promotes exclusivity

5. hidden but supported racism

6. they are the chosen ones

7. they have the only truth

8 both believe in heaven hell

you sure you are not a hindu ?

[Tamansingh123]

10 hours ago, MuslimNeighbour said:

How many of you on this forum lack reading comprehension? I'm speaking ONLY of the Abrahamic faiths here, not Sikhi.

 

So why are u talking with the sikhs if u wanna discuss abrahamic beliefs.

[Tamansingh123]

10 hours ago, MuslimNeighbour said:

Make a thread on whether any of the Guru's were God or not, from my interactions some of you think they were God and others think not.

Im not the spokesman for everyone but gurus aint gods. And u can make it and ask us about it. 

[Singh375]

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[CuriousMuslim]

9 hours ago, Koi said:

@MuslimNeighbour, a couple of things.

Firstly,  when I asked you a direct question, on whether or not an omnipotent God could enter creation if he so wishes, you brushed it to the side saying you don't care. Well, this is an important question, because the answer will potentially undermine your whole understanding of God. If you say he cannot, then simply put, you do not believe God is omnipotent. If you do, however, agree, then you have to postulate that God can manifest as a human, whether it's Guru Nanak Maharaj, the Avtars, Jesus etc. But your unwillingness to answer a direct question indicates deception. Please show some intellectual integrity and answer the question. We believe an omnipotent God can manifest as a human in his creation, because he's OMNIPOTENT. What's your opinion?

Secondly, on the point of Jesus not claiming to be God. Of course he did. Have you even read the bible? If you did, you'd know that Jesus did claim to be God on many occasions. This is in fact such an obvious thing. 

Hi all I'm new to the forum.

Just thought I'd try to answer this. I'm a Muslim but not an expert on the faith. But I will try to answer this question.

If we define what a human is the I think that you will all agree that a human is a mortal being, a human can be hurt and for example we have alot of weakness like we need to eat and drink to survive.

If we then say God came to the world as a human e.g. like Jesus - well how can God then be called God? Because as a human you can die, you need to eat to survive, you need to drink and do all other human activities such as sleep. If God was to become human - this is out of the question for God to want/need to take a form of life that's beneath him. It's not one of Gods characteristics that he has all these dependencies that us humans have. He's is all mighty and self sustaining. If that makes sence.

[Koi]

6 minutes ago, CuriousMuslim said:

Hi all I'm new to the forum.

Just thought I'd try to answer this. I'm a Muslim but not an expert on the faith. But I will try to answer this question.

If we define what a human is the I think that you will all agree that a human is a mortal being, a human can be hurt and for example we have alot of weakness like we need to eat and drink to survive.

If we then say God came to the world as a human e.g. like Jesus - well how can God then be called God? Because as a human you can die, you need to eat to survive, you need to drink and do all other human activities such as sleep. If God was to become human - this is out of the question for God to want/need to take a form of life that's beneath him. It's not one of Gods characteristics that he has all these dependencies that us humans have. He's is all mighty and self sustaining. If that makes sence.

Welcome to the forum. 

Firstly, I like your manners. Even if we disagree on things, the mutual respect and manners should always be there.

Why is it out of the question for God to want or need to take any form? These are parameters that you are attempting to enforce on to God in an attempt to get Him to fit in your mental construct. The moment you say that according to your logic God cannot do xyz, that whole reasoning falls apart because you are trying to limit God to your understanding and attempting to dictate what He should or should not do.

Hence why I tried to make the question as simple as possible. If an almighty omnipotent God chooses to take human form, He can do so, because he has the power and will to do so. For Sikhs, it's really that simple. Hope that makes sense.

With regards to my second point about Jesus claiming to be God, I'll wait for the other guy to respond, or you can give it go if you like