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press conference held by Akal Takht Jathedar , panth dokhis/ GurNindaks have been named and shamed , the demand is out for them to appear before Akal Takht and in the meantime all Gurdwarey worldwide have been told to not book them, allow anyone to propgate their work and sangat hass been warned not to warm their shop or spread their videos

https://www.facebook.com/harpreetsingh.khalsa.92798/videos/1348632732204353

 

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You sure mate?  These goray have a LONG history of being able to play certain strands of apnay like finely tuned fiddles. And you know what 'strands' of apnay we are talking about here don't you?

The whole things a mess, Gurbani and learning Kirtan isn't the property of the few, my own opinion is it's for all, if you follow Sikhi (whether you are amritdhari or not) you should be able to learn

I got a family friend who actually knew Dhandri.  Thing was, this family friend is a known drinker and also abuses drugs. Kinda weird friend to have. Also my dad told me a story when he was younger. T

34 minutes ago, MisterrSingh said:

Did they start out corrupt or were they compromised along the way?

The answer to this question opens up a few interesting areas of discussion.

given that we know now they were gays hiding their proclivities in bhes of saintly life  I would say purely cynical and corrupt from the start and increased in their evil as time progressed as Guru Amar Dasji  said banda di niaat/sachiai appe nikulgi bina kisse da kuch kittia da te appe Waheguru sodha laoga

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2 hours ago, jkvlondon said:

given that we know now they were gays hiding their proclivities in bhes of saintly life  I would say purely cynical and corrupt from the start and increased in their evil as time progressed as Guru Amar Dasji  said banda di niaat/sachiai appe nikulgi bina kisse da kuch kittia da te appe Waheguru sodha laoga

The damage is done to a certain degree. Their diehard brainwashed supporters are going to continue defending them, cultivating an animosity for the Akal Takhat and similar official institutions. Another schism develops that serves to weaken us. This is all out of the old Communist subversion playbook. 

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I remember the excitement in my family about visiting the deewan  of Sant Dhadrianwale some 16 years back, when I had barely started college. He had come to mumbai and had a big deewan. Me , my mom dad went there. I remember his signature style of getting sangats to lift their arms in sky lol. It was an evening deewan and I think we had langar there as night meal and came home lol.

I have vague memories of childhood of visiting various samagams and seeing the sant baabe issue colourful magazines,  as quite a number of  families in our neighborhood were sikhs,  one particular big family very religious or a pretense actually. most of their kirpans went missing from their bodies long back lol.

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15 hours ago, Not2Cool2Argue said:

Also fame + youth is never a good combo. 

And there is an element of the occult in even sikh deras. Lots of people use gurbani to get occult powers and worldy wishes. There was a case of a baba running off with someones wife in CA. And the wife was in some kind of mental fog/ not right mind.  

I have even heard among parchariks that do this much kamaii in order to become famous. Thats not necessarily bad but then these ppl who did bhagti to become famous and gain followers, dont really have the wisdom or tyaag to handle the riches and fame

Also ive noticed what is happening in society also effects us sikhs. So like the vatican has the pink lobby made up of the gay people in the priesthood. I hope this  was it for sikhs and hopefully its been nipped in the bud. And the LGBTQ and pedophilia hasnt gained ground in the deras like it has in the catholic church. 

If a so-called spiritually attuned individual is prescribing the pursuit of fame as a career choice, even if the method is via an initially noble yet obviously superficial religious instruction, that person will eventually fall flat on their face. It may take time, but it will eventually happen. You cannot cynically use Gurbani as a wealth and fame generator particularly if you don't practice in private what is preached in public. The Piper has to be paid.

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14 hours ago, Not2Cool2Argue said:

We did ask him how he became a parchaarik. He said he was a sickly child who was left at sant ishar singh jis diwaan. (If my memory is intact) And so he was raised in this parchaarik lifestyle. 

Oops, I never thought of this before: but was he molested in the dera by someone? (Not the Sant, but a random person or persons. Because there are always tons of followers-on in deras.)

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Harinder's released a video on Nirvair Khalsa Jatha's youtube page (i'm not posting it out of principle, it's easy to find), he waffle's on for 10 minutes telling people to make up their own minds and how the system's corrupt.

I remember seeing them years ago, they were pretty good, they had all the sangat's attention, i saw them recently (well, a couple of years back, before they opened their own Gurdwara) and he rolled up in a brand new white Audi Q7 with a private plate (something like NKJ **) and that spoke volumes about who he and his group of rag tag followers were, power and money corrupts, only a few are immune to it, these lot are as corrupted as they get.

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48 minutes ago, BhForce said:

Oops, I never thought of this before: but was he molested in the dera by someone? (Not the Sant, but a random person or persons. Because there are always tons of followers-on in deras.)

I spent time in a similar setting when I was a kid (under 10), and while, with God's grace, I managed to not fall victim to such shenanigans mostly due to my parents pulling me out in time, I observed the older "kids" (mid-teens and older) actively targetting the younger ones. They start friendly; an arm around the shoulder, etc., but then their hands start wandering; they make night-time visits to where the younger kids sleep, and before you know it the filth starts.

Sikh or not, where-ever there's young children, you will always have sexual predators gravitating to such places. Our institutions are no exception.

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1 hour ago, kcmidlands said:

Harinder's released a video on Nirvair Khalsa Jatha's youtube page (i'm not posting it out of principle, it's easy to find), he waffle's on for 10 minutes telling people to make up their own minds and how the system's corrupt.

I remember seeing them years ago, they were pretty good, they had all the sangat's attention, i saw them recently (well, a couple of years back, before they opened their own Gurdwara) and he rolled up in a brand new white Audi Q7 with a private plate (something like NKJ **) and that spoke volumes about who he and his group of rag tag followers were, power and money corrupts, only a few are immune to it, these lot are as corrupted as they get.

Yea he called Jathedar ji a hypocrite.All the more sangat should listen to our jathedar and not NKJ.Just because NKJ says a couple of good things,that does not give them the right to say the wrong things and not be questioned.For example Harinder said mental illnesses cannot be cured by Gurbani.by that he is putting limitation on  Guru ji's capabilities.If we have full faith in our Guru he can solve all our problems.We dont have to see a worldly doctor,our physician  is Guru ji.

Bhul Chuk Maf 🙏

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