Sikhs in Punjab vs Sikhs outside Punjab!!!

[Ranjeet01]

7 minutes ago, jkvlondon said:

if you read the blurb he supplied he indicates that he was mona mostly and only kept kesh for a few years , whereas Jagraj was the opposite pattern mostly keshadhari mona for a short time . Most Hindus I've known i my lifetime are not into dharam , only now have I met a family who do learn bhajans music instruments do paat pooja  on the daily , they are neighbours a few doors down but their kids are not so much .

It's almost like it follows the old "bring one son Sikh with kesh"

It's the old Khatri playbook.

[jkvlondon]

1 minute ago, Ranjeet01 said:

It's almost like it follows the old "bring one son Sikh with kesh"

It's the old Khatri playbook.

but wasn't that so they could take advantadge of British army restrictions and  benefits paid to sikh regimentals ?

[puzzled]

With this whole marriage stuff parents are to blame as well. One of my cousin sister told her parents that she wants to marry a singh and not a mona but her mother is not too happy with that. My cousin sister even got a rishta from their distant relatives who are amritdhari and they know a young singh. My cousins mother just said no to them straight away on the phone and then told my cousin sister that she refused the rishta. 

What hope is there when you have strange parents like that.

[jkvlondon]

8 minutes ago, puzzled said:

With this whole marriage stuff parents are to blame as well. One of my cousin sister told her parents that she wants to marry a singh and not a mona but her mother is not too happy with that. My cousin sister even got a rishta from their distant relatives who are amritdhari and they know a young singh. My cousins mother just said no to them straight away on the phone and then told my cousin sister that she refused the rishta. 

What hope is there when you have strange parents like that.

it's parents like that , who end up their daughter's enemies

[Ranjeet01]

21 minutes ago, jkvlondon said:

but wasn't that so they could take advantadge of British army restrictions and  benefits paid to sikh regimentals ?

It's interesting that their father was in the army. 

[Guest Learner Sikh]

In Himachal Pradesh, all of the Sikh boys (all keep dastaar) and Sikh girls (most don't where dastaar) keep their kesh, from visiting and staying there.  H.P. seems to be pretty conservative compared to other parts of North India.  Alot of mata devi mandirs, especially in kangra.

[DelhiTurbanator]

On 9/11/2020 at 5:46 AM, Guest Sukhiveer said:

 

 

Same people with different ids. Stop fooling around. 

Different people with similar opinions. It would help if you contribute to topic rather than spreading unnecessary judgments.

[Premi5]

On 9/10/2020 at 1:33 PM, Jonny101 said:

 

Even within regions there is a difference. Doaba is where you will find the most clean shaven boys followed by Majha. Within Punjab Sikhi is strongest in Malwa. Maybe it is due to the high degree of influence of Sants in Malwa

Are you sure? Manga is the stronghold of Sikhi in Punjab. Most Khalistanus from there.

Malwa has land and population equal to Diana and Majha combined or more, so it is difficult to label whole of Malwa as honegenous

[Guest Singh]

10 hours ago, puzzled said:

I was quite surprised when I saw his mother in the recent documentary made by sunny hundal. I thought she would be a amritdhari lady with a dastar.  She could possibly be a hindu or a delhite 

Yes Bhai Jagraj Singh Ji mother was a Hindu lady called Disha originally but then Bhai Jagraj Singh Ji's parents had an Anand Karaj and she became Sikh. As in India millions of Hindu women have married Sikh men over the years and pretty much all Sikhs have Hindu, Muslim, Jain, Buddhist ancestry to varying degrees.

Bhai Jagraj Singh Ji's wife is is gori too and hence why so many are opposed to protests against Anand Karaj with Dharmic spouses.

As otherwise imagine if people had protested at the Bhai Jagraj Singh Ji's parents Anand Karaj and then Bhai Jagraj Singh Ji had never been raised with any knowledge of Sikhi as a result. As the children of people banned from Anand Karaj at Gurdwara are more and more likely to obviously hate Sikhi as a result. But thank God that never happened with Bhai Jagraj Singh Ji and his children too. 

 

[Guest Singh]

11 hours ago, Ranjeet01 said:

 His mother's name was "Disha".

Is it the case that they have mixed Sikh-Hindu heritage?

Yes Bhai Jagraj Singh Ji was born into a family where his mother was Hindu before marriage.

But after Anand Karaj with his Bhai Jagraj Singh Ji's father she became a Sikh too. Very common in India even now.

Bhai Jagraj Singh Ji is just another example of someone from new non-Sikh ancestry being way more dedicated to Sikhi than those who have been Sikhs for a few generations. Posters like Mehtab Singh (former Hindu) and Jonny101 have recent Hindu ancestry.

Examples include Bhai Jagraj Singh Ji, Bhagat Puran Singh Ji, Master Tara Singh Ji

And multitudes of Shaheeds like Banda Singh Bahadur and four of the Panj Piare.

Obviously Mata Sulakhani and Guru Angad Dev Ji and Guru Amar Das were similar non-Sikhs before coming to Sikhi and taking the Panth forward