dogras and mirpuri connection

[Harditsingh]

so ever since i heard tht majority of groomers are mirpuri i started doing research on this ppl. what i found was interesting in that alot of mirpuris and kashmiris are classified as chib rajputs and these guys r descendants of the katoch rajput who converted to islam. the interesting thing is tht the dogras who betrayed the Sikhs are also of katoch lineage.

Furthermore, it was there conversion to Islam that also led to many other tribes such as the Bhawpal, Domaal and Kamlak following suite. They are in essence Dogras who have converted to Islam.

The Chibs trace their descent from Partab Chand, a Katoch Rajput prince of Kangra, who said to have ended Thakial rule in the Mirpur-Bhimber region, and established the Chib dynasty

The other major clans are Jaswal, Guleria, Sibaia and Dadwal and Pathania who are also desecendants of partab chand who are today hindu sikh or muslims it must be noted tht i have never come into contact with people of these clans in real life so i dont know how to compare them with mirpuris and if they share similar cultural attitudes towards women and SIkhs etc

[Harditsingh]

anyone with any further information on this?

[Ranjeet01]

9 hours ago, Harditsingh said:

so ever since i heard tht majority of groomers are mirpuri i started doing research on this ppl. what i found was interesting in that alot of mirpuris and kashmiris are classified as chib rajputs and these guys r descendants of the katoch rajput who converted to islam. the interesting thing is tht the dogras who betrayed the Sikhs are also of katoch lineage.

Furthermore, it was there conversion to Islam that also led to many other tribes such as the Bhawpal, Domaal and Kamlak following suite. They are in essence Dogras who have converted to Islam.

The Chibs trace their descent from Partab Chand, a Katoch Rajput prince of Kangra, who said to have ended Thakial rule in the Mirpur-Bhimber region, and established the Chib dynasty

The other major clans are Jaswal, Guleria, Sibaia and Dadwal and Pathania who are also desecendants of partab chand who are today hindu sikh or muslims it must be noted tht i have never come into contact with people of these clans in real life so i dont know how to compare them with mirpuris and if they share similar cultural attitudes towards women and SIkhs etc

The Dogras and Mirpuris are people of the hills.

Sikhs are people of the plains.

Hilly people don't like plains people.

 

[Harditsingh]

9 minutes ago, Ranjeet01 said:

The Dogras and Mirpuris are people of the hills.

Sikhs are people of the plains.

Hilly people don't like plains people.

 

some of these last names are found in punjab though like Dadwal but they too are from the same lineage as mirpuris. what i want to know is that are these type of attitudes towards women and grooming accepted by the few sikhs of this lineage? As these ppl share the same ancestor or did religion turn them completely different from one another 

[Ranjeet01]

17 minutes ago, Harditsingh said:

some of these last names are found in punjab though like Dadwal but they too are from the same lineage as mirpuris. what i want to know is that are these type of attitudes towards women and grooming accepted by the few sikhs of this lineage? As these ppl share the same ancestor or did religion turn them completely different from one another 

People who share ancestory can diverge too as well.

There are other environmental factors.