Sheesha & Sikhi - An increasing problem in our society

[jkvlondon]

1 minute ago, Redoptics said:

says who that one report you read? Do you even know the reason why they got popcorn lungs?

because vaping actually opens the aveoli more so penetrate deeper into the lungs and the condensate is unable to be cleared properly resulting in flavorings pooling and irritating those tiny air passages causing inflammation hampering gas exchange and ultimately scarring totally blocking the exchange , when this happens  you need new lungs

[Redoptics]

1 minute ago, jkvlondon said:

because vaping actually opens the aveoli more so penetrate deeper into the lungs and the condensate is unable to be cleared properly resulting in flavorings pooling and irritating those tiny air passages causing inflammation hampering gas exchange and ultimately scarring totally blocking the exchange , when this happens  you need new lungs

Actually what happened,  the people in question didn't change their atomizers after the stated two weeks, think they didnt change it, for several months. They were inhaling droplets of of hot liquid, thus caused the issue with their lungs.

[jkvlondon]

After workers at a factory that packaged microwave popcorn were found to have bronchiolitis obliterans more often than other people, some companies stopped using diacetyl as a flavoring. But it's still used in some electronic cigarette flavors in the US. Many e-cigarette makers state they aren't using this chemical in their products and its use in e-cigarettes is banned in Europe.

Another common cause is acetaldehyde, a chemical found in the smoke from marijuana and some electronic cigarettes. Acetaldehyde also can damage the lining of your mouth, throat, and stomach.

Other chemicals that can cause popcorn lung include:

• Metal oxide fumes, a common byproduct of welding
• Formaldehyde, a cancer-causing chemical used in some glues and building materials
• Sulfur dioxide, a pollutant released by burning fossil fuels
• Ammonia
• Chlorine
• Nitrogen oxides
• Hydrochloric acid
• Sulfur mustard, a chemical weapon known as "mustard gas"

The changing of cartridges would have only slowed the development as it is the exposure to the chemicals that irritate and inflame the aveoli

[Redoptics]

1 minute ago, jkvlondon said:

After workers at a factory that packaged microwave popcorn were found to have bronchiolitis obliterans more often than other people, some companies stopped using diacetyl as a flavoring. But it's still used in some electronic cigarette flavors in the US. Many e-cigarette makers state they aren't using this chemical in their products and its use in e-cigarettes is banned in Europe.

Another common cause is acetaldehyde, a chemical found in the smoke from marijuana and some electronic cigarettes. Acetaldehyde also can damage the lining of your mouth, throat, and stomach.

Other chemicals that can cause popcorn lung include:

• Metal oxide fumes, a common byproduct of welding
• Formaldehyde, a cancer-causing chemical used in some glues and building materials
• Sulfur dioxide, a pollutant released by burning fossil fuels
• Ammonia
• Chlorine
• Nitrogen oxides
• Hydrochloric acid
• Sulfur mustard, a chemical weapon known as "mustard gas"

The changing of cartridges would have only slowed the development as it is the exposure to the chemicals that irritate and inflame the aveoli

Yes and they have changed the chemicals to meet UK requirements.

[puzzled]

24 minutes ago, Ranjeet01 said:

The alcohol lobby has a lot of clout with the government and media, so it will be very difficult to ban in advertising. Though not impossible. 

Banning Smoking advertising does not really stop people from indulging either. It just shifts it underground away from public eyes. 

That's the thing though isnt it. It's like how America bombed afghanistan yet left the poppy fields standing!  That's why the drug "smuggling" from Afghanistan to Pakistan and then Punjab and the rest of India is not being stopped.

 Movies and music videos make people curious and want to try that stuff, it actually encourages people.

In Pubjabi/indian movies before the movie they make an announcement that alcohol and smoking is injurious to your health. Yet then they show characters partying and having "fun" 

 

[MisterrSingh]

3 minutes ago, puzzled said:

In Pubjabi/indian movies before the movie they make an announcement that alcohol and smoking is injurious to your health. Yet then they show characters partying and having "fun" 

 

I think the onus should be on the individual to exert restraint and self control. Showing a character with particular habits and doing certain acts shouldn't be an endorsement to the audience to follow suit.

[puzzled]

Rappers and the whole rap culture that teens including pubjabi teens look upto basically promotes drugs.

These rappers are the worst kind of people that any kid can look up to. 

Just money, s3x and drugs and that's it. That is all they rap about, talk about and that's all they post photos of on social media. 

Rappers are a disgrace, theres videos of some actually p1ssing on heaps of $$$  basically showing that they have so much money that they can even p1ss on it. 

What a disgrace. And that is what kids look up to these days. 

[Ranjeet01]

10 minutes ago, puzzled said:

That's the thing though isnt it. It's like how America bombed afghanistan yet left the poppy fields standing!  That's why the drug "smuggling" from Afghanistan to Pakistan and then Punjab and the rest of India is not being stopped.

 Movies and music videos make people curious and want to try that stuff, it actually encourages people.

In Pubjabi/indian movies before the movie they make an announcement that alcohol and smoking is injurious to your health. Yet then they show characters partying and having "fun" 

 

Smoking in the UK has not stopped even though it is injurious to your health. People are aware of it through all the advertising attempts. 

If you go into a shop, you have those shutters so people cannot see the cigarettes. 

The government makes billions out of taxes from cigarette revenue, so they play a double game. 

Advertise that it is bad for you and make money at the same time.

They have done a cost/benefit analysis. The tax revenue from cigarettes is more than the cost to the NHS for heart disease and cancer. 

[MisterrSingh]

5 minutes ago, puzzled said:

Rappers and the whole rap culture that teens including pubjabi teens look upto basically promotes drugs.

These rappers are the worst kind of people that any kid can look up to. 

Just money, s3x and drugs and that's it. That is all they rap about, talk about and that's all they post photos of on social media. 

Rappers are a disgrace, theres videos of some actually p1ssing on heaps of $$$  basically showing that they have so much money that they can even p1ss on it. 

What a disgrace. And that is what kids look up to these days. 

True, true. When the target population is impressionable and easily led, to put it kindly lol, some type of censorious measures might need to be implemented.

[Redoptics]

7 minutes ago, puzzled said:

Rappers and the whole rap culture that teens including pubjabi teens look upto basically promotes drugs.

These rappers are the worst kind of people that any kid can look up to. 

Just money, s3x and drugs and that's it. That is all they rap about, talk about and that's all they post photos of on social media. 

Rappers are a disgrace, theres videos of some actually p1ssing on heaps of $$$  basically showing that they have so much money that they can even p1ss on it. 

What a disgrace. And that is what kids look up to these days. 

Its always been s.x, drugs and rock n roll nothing has changed