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    • Is there a footnote or addendum for Chatropokhiyan that states, "Not All Women"? Or is it something that's considered to be assumed and not worth mentioning?  You can play with words and claim others who highlight these issues are slandering all women, but nothing in what's been stated targets every single woman alive. You can lie and force through your agenda, but then that just reveals your spiritual posturing to be as hollow and meaningless as your arguments. Do you know what statistical data is? It's drawing on information and data to present an inference based on various characteristics that are a broad occurrence, with the theory of probability, that doesn't take into account outlying extremes.  It is as simple as that. And if this needs to be stated anytime a sensitive discussion occurs on this site, then you folk are in serious trouble up ahead.  
    • Vaheguru ji ka khalsa Vaheguru ji ki fateh  No veerji. Yes of course woman are capable of terrible things to like what indira gandhi but there are other woman like Mata Sahib Kaur,Bibi Nanaki,Mai Bhago and countless other shaheed Singhanis whose greatness cannot be described.But when Guru Sahib is saying this,it is to those people who have negative stereotypes against woman and claim that all woman are like that and that only a woman can do such a kartoot.This is wrong as this would be an insult to other good woman.Its like imagine saying all Man are cunning.Then this would insult all good man.Another example is that many people abort children just because the child is female.Thats why Guru Sahib says why condemn a woman whose Greatness CAN be so powerful.But this does not apply to all woman.No it is not wrong to call Indira Gandhi bad or Rajiv Gandhi bad or a person like Wazir Khan.But it is bad to give an example of evil people and judge a whole gender or religion based on that.🙏 Bhul Chuk Maf 🙏
    • It's a problem that we need to eliminate. If we don't, it's going to be a huge problem when the time comes for unifying and moving forward.
    • I find this "from women, men are born " quote from gurbani very troublesome in my mind. Bul chuk maf  if I cause any offence. Please help me understand.  If we call Indira Gandhi bad, is it wrong because she is a woman even though she stormed our holiest place and killed so many people? She gave birth to Rajiv Gandhi. Was he a king? And how many innocent Sikhs did he kill?  If women are capable of great things, than can they be capable of terrible things too? Or does having a womb exempt them from this?
    • Sant Isher Singh Ji Maharaj verify this in one of their recorded kathas (available online), as do Sant Waryam Singh Ji Ratwara Sahib Wale in 2 of their kathas (also available online, the mention Suleman by name). I can't remember what the links are to their katha, as it's been many years since I heard them. They are available on gurmatveechar.com. All true.
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