Jump to content

Sikh-Muslim wedding streamed live in England.


Guest G3LLS
 Share

Recommended Posts

She has become a new Sikh of her own choice.

Sikhi gives equality to women.

Islam and the Quran state that women are inferior and can be beaten by men.

Hence why so many Muslim background women are marrying non-Muslims and leaving Islam in the West to avoid the domestic violence and subjugation commonplace when marrying a Muslim man.

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 11/8/2020 at 12:26 AM, Guest Singh said:

She has become a new Sikh of her own choice.

Sikhi gives equality to women.

Islam and the Quran state that women are inferior and can be beaten by men.

Hence why so many Muslim background women are marrying non-Muslims and leaving Islam in the West to avoid the domestic violence and subjugation commonplace when marrying a Muslim man.

 

 

So we have women from other backrounds converting to muslim to marry some bloke and origanally muslim women to get freedom, right?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest Neighbour
On 11/7/2020 at 1:26 PM, Guest Singh said:

She has become a new Sikh of her own choice.

Sikhi gives equality to women.

Islam and the Quran state that women are inferior and can be beaten by men.

Hence why so many Muslim background women are marrying non-Muslims and leaving Islam in the West to avoid the domestic violence and subjugation commonplace when marrying a Muslim man.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-39480846

The women who sleep with a stranger to save their marriage

By Athar Ahmad
BBC Asian Network & Victoria Derbyshire programme

Published
5 April 2017
Islamic brideIMAGE COPYRIGHTGETTY IMAGES

A number of online services are charging "divorced" Muslim women thousands of pounds to take part in "halala" Islamic marriages, a BBC investigation has found. Women pay to marry, have sex with and then divorce a stranger, so they can get back with their first husbands.

Farah - not her real name - met her husband after being introduced to him by a family friend when she was in her 20s. They had children together soon afterwards but then, Farah says, the abuse began.

"The first time he was abusive was over money," she tells the BBC's Asian Network and Victoria Derbyshire programme.

"He dragged me by my hair through two rooms and tried to throw me out of the house. There would be times where he would just go crazy."

Despite the abuse, Farah hoped things would change. Her husband's behaviour though became increasingly erratic - leading to him "divorcing" her via text message.

"I was at home with the children and he was at work. During a heated discussion he sent me a text saying, 'talaq, talaq, talaq'."

"Triple talaq" - where a man says "talaq", or divorce, to his wife three times in a row - is a practice which some Muslims believe ends an Islamic marriage instantly.

It is banned in most Muslim countries but still happens, though it is impossible to know exactly how many women are "divorced" like this in the UK.

"I had my phone on me," Farah explains, "and I just passed it over to my dad. He was like, 'Your marriage is over, you can't go back to him.'"

media captionFarah would have had to consummate her halala marriage

Farah says she was "absolutely distraught", but willing to return to her ex-husband because he was "the love of my life".

She says her ex-husband also regretted divorcing her.

This led Farah to seek the controversial practice known as halala, which is accepted by a small minority of Muslims who subscribe to the concept of a triple talaq.

They believe halala is the only way a couple who have been divorced, and wish to reconcile, can remarry.

Halala involves the woman marrying someone else, consummating the marriage and then getting a divorce - after which she is able to remarry her first husband.

But in some cases, women who seek halala services are at risk of being financially exploited, blackmailed and even sexually abused.

It's a practice the vast majority of Muslims are strongly against and is attributed to individuals misunderstanding the Islamic laws around divorce.

But an investigation by the BBC has found a number of online accounts offering halala services, several of which are charging women thousands of pounds to take part in temporary marriages.

'Desperation'

One man, advertising halala services on Facebook, told an undercover BBC reporter posing as a divorced Muslim woman that she would need to pay £2,500 and have sex with him in order for the marriage to be "complete" - at which point he would divorce her.

The man also said he had several other men working with him, one who he claims initially refused to issue a woman a divorce after a halala service was complete.

There is nothing to suggest the man is doing anything illegal. The BBC contacted him after the meeting - he rejects any allegations against him, claiming he has never carried out or been involved in a halala marriage and that the Facebook account he created was for fun, as part of a social experiment.

In her desperation to be reunited with her husband, Farah began trying to find men who were willing to carry out a halala marriage.

"I knew of girls who had gone behind families' backs and had it done and been used for months," she says.

"They went to the mosque, there was apparently a designated room where they did this stuff and the imam or whoever offers these services, slept with her and then allowed other men to sleep with her too."

Khola Hasan
image captionKhola Hasan says halala services are "abusing vulnerable people"

But the Islamic Sharia Council in East London, which regularly advises women on issues around divorce, strongly condemns halala marriages.

"This is a sham marriage, it is about making money and abusing vulnerable people," says Khola Hasan from the organisation.

"It's haram, it's forbidden. There's no stronger word I can use. There are other options, like getting help or counselling. We would not allow anyone to go through with that. You do not need halala, no matter what," she adds.

Farah ultimately decided against getting back with her husband - and the risks of going through a halala marriage. But she warns there are other women out there, like her, who are desperate for a solution.

"Unless you're in that situation where you're divorced and feeling the pain I felt, no-one's going to understand the desperation some women feel.

"If you ask me now, in a sane state, I would never do it. I'm not going to sleep with someone to get back with a man. But at that precise time I was desperate to get back with my ex-partner at any means or measure."

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 4 weeks later...
25 minutes ago, Guest Isha said:

What a loser ... marrying an ugly sulli

must be a very low caste turbaned fool

What does his "low" caste got to do with him marrying a "ugly" woman. Stupid comment.  She isn't ugly anyway, not that it matters. 

As long as she has become a Sikh, and her family agree with it then there is nothing wrong with it. 

Running away with someone's daughter is very wrong.  

Link to comment
Share on other sites

57 minutes ago, puzzled said:

What does his "low" caste got to do with him marrying a "ugly" woman. Stupid comment.  She isn't ugly anyway, not that it matters. 

As long as she has become a Sikh, and her family agree with it then there is nothing wrong with it. 

Running away with someone's daughter is very wrong.  

Everything. It’s his low caste that excluded him from mainstream Sikhi first of all and feeling excluded, his need for belonging somewhere strengthened. Seeing the only community that will welcome him and make him more inclusive was the one that defines itself as the religion of peace. There, go cut the story short, he fjnds himself a girl from that community as quickly as possible, even if she is known to the rest of tv he world as the most ugliest girl on earth ever.   If she is not ugly according to you and you are quite sure about it, then I think you must be the next stinking ugliest thing on earth. Do now, we have two of the ugliest things on this earth. WE DONT WANT SULLEHS OR ANYONE non punjabies converting to our PURE DHARM. You are not planning to do it are you 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Although I agree with what you said yet I have to disagree with you when you say that now we have the two most ugliest things in this world. How do you know there might be more? For instance, his wife of his children of his parents and siblings might also be very ugly. In which case we have more than two.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...
 Share


  • advertisement_alt
  • advertisement_alt
  • advertisement_alt


  • Topics

  • Posts

    • yeh it's true, we shouldn't be lazy and need to learn jhatka shikaar. It doesn't help some of grew up in surrounding areas like Slough and Southall where everyone thought it was super bad for amrit dharis to eat meat, and they were following Sant babas and jathas, and instead the Singhs should have been normalising jhatka just like the recent world war soldiers did. We are trying to rectifiy this and khalsa should learn jhatka.  But I am just writing about bhog for those that are still learning rehit. As I explained, there are all these negative influences in the panth that talk against rehit, but this shouldn't deter us from taking khanda pahul, no matter what level of rehit we are!
    • How is it going to help? The link is of a Sikh hunter. Fine, but what good does that do the lazy Sikh who ate khulla maas in a restaurant? By the way, for the OP, yes, it's against rehit to eat khulla maas.
    • Yeah, Sikhs should do bhog of food they eat. But the point of bhog is to only do bhog of food which is fit to be presented to Maharaj. It's not maryada to do bhog of khulla maas and pretend it's OK to eat. It's not. Come on, bro, you should know better than to bring this Sakhi into it. Is this Sikh in the restaurant accompanied by Guru Gobind Singh ji? Is he fighting a dharam yudh? Or is he merely filling his belly with the nearest restaurant?  Please don't make a mockery of our puratan Singhs' sacrifices by comparing them to lazy Sikhs who eat khulla maas.
    • Seriously?? The Dhadi is trying to be cute. For those who didn't get it, he said: "Some say Maharaj killed bakras (goats). Some say he cut the heads of the Panj Piyaras. The truth is that they weren't goats. It was she-goats (ਬਕਰੀਆਂ). He jhatka'd she-goats. Not he-goats." Wow. This is possibly the stupidest thing I've ever heard in relation to Sikhi.
    • Instead of a 9 inch or larger kirpan, take a smaller kirpan and put it (without gatra) inside your smaller turban and tie the turban tightly. This keeps a kirpan on your person without interfering with the massage or alarming the masseuse. I'm not talking about a trinket but rather an actual small kirpan that fits in a sheath (you'll have to search to find one). As for ahem, "problems", you could get a male masseuse. I don't know where you are, but in most places there are professional masseuses who actually know what they are doing and can really relieve your muscle pains.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

Terms of Use