Sikhs excluded from Remembrance Sunday commemoration

[ChardikalaUK]

1 hour ago, justasking said:

the average gora is a pansy.we should intimidate them and be aggresive towards them like how the pakistanis do it

They ruled half the world, what did we do? Rule part of Punjab for 50 odd years.

[dallysingh101]

6 minutes ago, ChardikalaUK said:

They ruled half the world, what did we do? Rule part of Punjab for 50 odd years.

We ruled in a place where we were outnumbered and had some of the most violent fanatic neighbours going. If they breezed in, it was easier for them because prior to their arrival, the heavy work had been done and the area had largely been tamed and secured - by Sikhs. 

If they won the Sikh-anglo wars, it was down to treachery (which is a persistent characteristic of theirs). 

[dallysingh101]

Message to all UK Sikhs: 

Please find some sense of self-worth that doesn't involve projecting our community as some sort of dimwitted, sepoys for outsider communities.

We need to move away from this now.  It's actually doing us lots of harm, because it reinforces this docile, perpetually loyal image that we need to shake off. 

 

[ChardikalaUK]

4 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:

Message to all UK Sikhs: 

Please find some sense of self-worth that doesn't involve projecting our community as some sort of dimwitted, sepoys for outsider communities.

We need to move away from this now.  It's actually doing us lots of harm, because it reinforces this docile, perpetually loyal image that we need to shake off. 

 

Exactly. 

Otherwise we are living up to claims like 'Sikhism was created to protect Hinduism.'

[justasking]

7 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:

Message to all UK Sikhs: 

Please find some sense of self-worth that doesn't involve projecting our community as some sort of dimwitted, sepoys for outsider communities.

We need to move away from this now.  It's actually doing us lots of harm, because it reinforces this docile, perpetually loyal image that we need to shake off. 

 

100 percent truth right here. what has this type of behaviour gotten us? lead to the decline in morals both our men and women this was the brits plan since the begining to destroy us who cares of some old timers wanna talk sweet about them its time we take things in a different direction

[Ranjeet01]

Let's create our own Shaheed's day. We commerate our own and not bother about the rest. 

"Lest we forget", my a$$.

Until the next war!

[imhosingh]

I know as we live in the UK etc that we like to 'commemorate' the Sikhs who fought for the British. But personally I find it a bit iffy that we go on about that..while at the same time moaning about 'empire', what the Brits did to the Sikh empire etc...when in India the hero's of that time are folks like Mohan Singh , Chandra Bose who set up the Indian national army that fought against the British imperialist , with the aim of an independent india. Not all Sikhs supported the British against the Germans and japanese etc. Many enlisted for the brits because they paid well and ran India at the time..whereas the INA had recruits who joined on principle... In India those who fought for the British are not highly regarded...there are no statues for them . Read about Bose and the INA and you might be surprised 

[Ranjeet01]

24 minutes ago, imhosingh said:

I know as we live in the UK etc that we like to 'commemorate' the Sikhs who fought for the British. But personally I find it a bit iffy that we go on about that..while at the same time moaning about 'empire', what the Brits did to the Sikh empire etc...when in India the hero's of that time are folks like Mohan Singh , Chandra Bose who set up the Indian national army that fought against the British imperialist , with the aim of an independent india. Not all Sikhs supported the British against the Germans and japanese etc. Many enlisted for the brits because they paid well and ran India at the time..whereas the INA had recruits who joined on principle... In India those who fought for the British are not highly regarded...there are no statues for them . Read about Bose and the INA and you might be surprised 

Some of the UK Sikhs that want commemoration are looking for acknowledgment. 

This is the game a lot of minorities are looking to.

You see this with Black History Month where black people want acknowledgment in British culture going back centuries. 

If one minority gets some acknowledgment then we all want some as well.

It is FOMO in some ways.

It takes great resolve to go your own way.

[MisterrSingh]

20 hours ago, justasking said:

the average gora is a pansy.we should intimidate them and be aggresive towards them like how the pakistanis do it

The white middle classes in the South as portrayed in the media are a lost cause. Neurotic, cowardly, subordinate to women and minorities, and generally low T. The men of the North while not having completely prevented themselves from succumbing to the propaganda, there are considerable pockets of them that still have some fighting spirit in them. In their communities away from prying eyes and ears they still have those conversations that their fathers, grandfathers, etc., had decades earlier. Don't allow yourself to fall into the trap that masculinity in the host community is dead. It's been subdued until that moment when it won't be.

[puzzled]

Did anyone do a 1 min silence today?