Do Sikhs over celebrate Bandi Chorr Diwas/Diwali?

[ChardikalaUK]

What I meant in my original post was if Sikhs give too much importance to Diwali/Bandi Chorr Diwas. Is it really a big important event in Sikh history? There are more significant events in my opinion.

It seems that someone just decided to tie in Bandi Chorr Diwas and Diwali together so that we Sikhs didn't feel left out when the Hindus were celebrating.

It's a bit like how the European Christians replaced their pagan winter solstice festival with Christmas. They felt guilty to celebrate their old pre-Christian festival so decided to give it a different meaning that fit their new religion but the dates do not match. 

 

 

[jkvlondon]

If Hindus know why we celebrate why do we have doubts ?

 

[jkvlondon]

18 minutes ago, ChardikalaUK said:

What I meant in my original post was if Sikhs give too much importance to Diwali/Bandi Chorr Diwas. Is it really a big important event in Sikh history? There are more significant events in my opinion.

It seems that someone just decided to tie in Bandi Chorr Diwas and Diwali together so that we Sikhs didn't feel left out when the Hindus were celebrating.

It's a bit like how the European Christians replaced their pagan winter solstice festival with Christmas. They felt guilty to celebrate their old pre-Christian festival so decided to give it a different meaning that fit their new religion but the dates do not match. 

 

 

it is a sikh historical event which happened around that time of year simple no compensatory backstory .

[jkvlondon]

On 11/16/2020 at 8:09 AM, Kaurr said:

Something like this. 

basically sparklers

[MisterrSingh]

1 hour ago, ChardikalaUK said:

What I meant in my original post was if Sikhs give too much importance to Diwali/Bandi Chorr Diwas. Is it really a big important event in Sikh history? There are more significant events in my opinion.

It seems that someone just decided to tie in Bandi Chorr Diwas and Diwali together so that we Sikhs didn't feel left out when the Hindus were celebrating.

It's a bit like how the European Christians replaced their pagan winter solstice festival with Christmas. They felt guilty to celebrate their old pre-Christian festival so decided to give it a different meaning that fit their new religion but the dates do not match. 

You're right and I agree. I mentioned something similar a while ago. 

It shouldn't detract from a valid and indisputable Sikh historical event, but it is slightly diminished (the perception of it rather than its actual existence) when it seems like a face-saving event so we aren't "left out" of the wider Hindu celebrations. 

Don't get me wrong, I treasure Indian mythology, literature, and the divine pantheon, etc., but most of our people are very literal, and as India continues to reinforce its cultural and political dominance over Sikhs through various means, our distinct survival hinges on the idea of our uniqueness. Sharing these religious days may seem trivial now, but it is setting us up for a future of lazy, pick-and-choose ambiguity. The orthodox know the score, yet it's that huge grey, laissez-faire mass in the middle that will let the side down.

[Shaheed4life]

2 hours ago, Ranjeet01 said:

Are you Singaporean 

Prefer to keep my location Gupt veerji

[Dsinghd]

8 hours ago, Shaheed4life said:

We never had a Nagar Kirtan in my country before.I had to go to Malaysia to see one lol.

Malaysia is a Muslim country. How many Sikhs are there?

[ChardikalaUK]

2 hours ago, jkvlondon said:

If Hindus know why we celebrate why do we have doubts ?

 

The vast majority of Hindus do not know this. I would say over 90% don't know. I reckon around 50% of western Sikhs don't know the reason we celebrate it either.

[ChardikalaUK]

3 hours ago, jkvlondon said:

it is a sikh historical event which happened around that time of year simple no compensatory backstory .

So why celebrate in a very similar way to the way Hindus celebrate Diwali, with fireworks, lighting candles etc.

And in terms of importance is it up there with Vaisakhi and Guru Nanak's Gurpurab? The celebrations certainly make it look so. 

[jkvlondon]

1 hour ago, ChardikalaUK said:

So why celebrate in a very similar way to the way Hindus celebrate Diwali, with fireworks, lighting candles etc.

And in terms of importance is it up there with Vaisakhi and Guru Nanak's Gurpurab? The celebrations certainly make it look so. 

the welcoming home of the sixth Guru would have been done with lights, dhoof, flower petals etc it's just the Indian way to show celebration and happiness. In terms of importance it is just as important as the freeing of Guru Nanak Dev ji , the Humbling of Jahaghir by Guru Arjan Dev ji , this freeing of 52 ! trapped kings and princes under purely the charisma of Guru Har Gobind ji's personality and the recognition of his holiness by Jahanghir