Farmer protest exposes anti Sikh nature of liberal Punjabi Hindus

[Ranjeet01]

26 minutes ago, proactive said:

I did see an interveiw with a Hindu lady at these talks who said that she represented a farmers organisation from Maharashtra and Gujarat ans she said that her members were being told by police not to make their way to Delhi otherwise they would face legal action. The police have also been guarding the most points out of the villages to check any attempt by farmers to come to Delhi. The reason that it looks like just farmers from Punjab and Haryana is because these states provide the most agricultural produce through the MSP. So they are one that stand to lose the most if MSP is scrapped after the private corporations enter the market. 

Do you know what other system other than MSP is present.

I can see this game played by opening up the market to private corporations. You see the same scam played with privatisation of other sectors.

It looks like that you open up the market and seems to be "free" market. What will happen is small operators get swallowed up and eventually gets controlled by a few big players. 

You get less players and less competition. The smaller players will close their farms and you end up mass industrial farms with bonded labourers. 

It is going back to a feudal system by another name.

You have Mr Ambani with his Reliance retail stores. He will squeeze the all suppliers like Tesco does in the UK.

Those farmers will be forced to sell their land to him. 

He will control the production of food and the sale of it to the public. 

If him and his cronies start to control the price, they will push all those small retail stores that sell food and they will be put out of business. 

He and his ilk will control everything. 

That cannot be allowed to happen.

[Ranjeet01]

Privatisation can also mean foreign players can come onto the scene. 

China is buying swathes of land in Africa and elsewhere to grow food, they could do the same in India.

New Zealand bulk of agriculture goes to China. What if these companies decide to sell food produced to China for higher prices and not to local market? 

[MisterrSingh]

2 hours ago, Ranjeet01 said:

Privatisation can also mean foreign players can come onto the scene. 

China is buying swathes of land in Africa and elsewhere to grow food, they could do the same in India.

New Zealand bulk of agriculture goes to China. What if these companies decide to sell food produced to China for higher prices and not to local market? 

The Indian media would have to spin that to an incredible degree, to make it seem as if Modi has a plan that ultimately benefits India even when dealing with a geopolitical adversary such as China, especially since what happened between the two sides a few months ago as well as the ongoing propaganda war between the two.

 

[Ranjeet01]

25 minutes ago, MisterrSingh said:

The Indian media would have to spin that to an incredible degree, to make it seem as if Modi has a plan that ultimately benefits India even when dealing with a geopolitical adversary such as China, especially since what happened between the two sides a few months ago as well as the ongoing propaganda war between the two.

 

Modi in theory should what's best for India.

The issue here is that he is beholden to various lobbies like the large Indian corporates and Oligarchs like Ambani. 

Ambani's interests do not lie in what is best for India's interests but to himself and his shareholders and to the globalist elites that he is probably a member of.

India's has banned a lot of Chinese apps because they do not want their population to be subverted by Chinese interests. 

However, that does not mean that india does not do business on the sly with China behind everybody's backs.

The likes of Ambani will still do business covertly even if overtly China is adversarial. 

That is why it's important to watch what they do, not what they say.

[MisterrSingh]

2 hours ago, Ranjeet01 said:

Modi in theory should what's best for India.

The issue here is that he is beholden to various lobbies like the large Indian corporates and Oligarchs like Ambani. 

Ambani's interests do not lie in what is best for India's interests but to himself and his shareholders and to the globalist elites that he is probably a member of.

India's has banned a lot of Chinese apps because they do not want their population to be subverted by Chinese interests. 

However, that does not mean that india does not do business on the sly with China behind everybody's backs.

The likes of Ambani will still do business covertly even if overtly China is adversarial. 

That is why it's important to watch what they do, not what they say.

The problem is when you buy into a cult of personality (Modi, Trump, Obama, etc), you have to basically lie to yourself -- if you're a weak and disingenuous person -- in order to continue championing "your guy" when he does something that is contrary to his public rhetoric, as a face saving tactic so that the other side doesn't get in with their criticism. 

That's the dialectic "they've" manufactured and perfected so that even moderately intelligent people feel compelled to pick a side in order to placate their conscience for reasons of either "protesting the tyrant" or "defending the plucky people's champion" when in reality the leaders or politicians in question belong to neither camp, and are actually committed to an entirely different cause.

As I said, even somewhat smart people in the West are drawn into this childish game, so we can only imagine how easy it is to get low IQ Modi supporters rattled up, ready to defend and fight for their guy and his ideology. It's fascinating and depressing in equal measures, lol.

[Ranjeet01]

Did a quick check. There is approximately just over 40 percent of workforce in India is involved in Agriculture.

Compared to most western countries which is less than 5 percent. 

The first order effect is impacted hundreds of millions of people's livelihoods. 

The second order effect is the other industry sectors like distribution, wholesalers and finally retail. They will also be impacted.

This "reform" will have massive repercussions. 

 

[puzzled]

14 hours ago, Jonny101 said:

weirdest lie I have seen them spread is that Capt Amrinder Singhs Pakistani gf Arooza is behind this conspiracy to destabilize India.

The worrying thing is that millions of Indians probably believed that regardless of how ridiculous it sounded, they are so gullible, a bunch of sheep.  

[Punjabiwolves]

I am from a Hindu Punjabi family and I fully support the famers i even posted on my social media which i tend to avoid when it comes to political issues. Indian media has made its look like its Khalistan affiliated protest when its clearly not  . its famers all over India protesting against the bill. its important people do their own research into this matter rather then watching Indian news outlets which are heavily Pro Modi and right wing Hindu. 

as for Punjabu Hindu not all are the same , many will back the famers  and sikhs in general sadly they are some that see Modi as thier god and will fully back him no matter what.As for UK Hindu Punjabi's well they dont really care and they not be aware of the issue. 

Me: so what your take on the farmer Protest in India ?

UK HP: "bruv i know nothding about da protest  or India man. all i know is that sidhu Mooswala track was sik man? Bruah I know my roots man.

Me: emmm OK so your turning a blind eye to something that affects  your culture?e your motherland ? I dint thiink you know your roots? 

UK HP: what you mean bruv? they can come to England init and work here . man wants to see some peng gyals from the pind come over here  you get me. 

 

 

[puzzled]

3 hours ago, Ranjeet01 said:

Did a quick check. There is approximately just over 40 percent of workforce in India is involved in Agriculture.

Compared to most western countries which is less than 5 percent. 

The first order effect is impacted hundreds of millions of people's livelihoods. 

The second order effect is the other industry sectors like distribution, wholesalers and finally retail. They will also be impacted.

This "reform" will have massive repercussions. 

 

It's going of be devastating, that's like 400 million people. So many people will be effected by this, farm labourers, cattle grazers, fish farmers, vegetable vendors, tribal communities, people who work in sugarcane mills and other agriculture related factories  etc  

When the recent floods happened in Punjab with the Bhakra dam, the people who were most effected were the poor from villages who work as labourers on the farms, I was watching interviews and they were saying they have no money now because the farms are covered in water so the farmers are not employing them to work in their fields.   

[proactive]

When India needed the agricultural produce of the farmers to feed its people and not rely on imported food they created the MSP and forced the farmers to sell to the govt at a set price.  Now that India is a food surplus country and more food is grown than can be consumed they want to introduce the free market so that the govt does not have to buy excess produce which then needs to be stored.