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Maharaja Ranjit Singh had full Dasam Granth memorized!


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4 hours ago, puzzled said:

yeah we see things which just don't make sense to us and then we end up trying to figure out why it happens only to end up more confused. Truth is we just can't see the bigger picture.

 

4 hours ago, GurjantGnostic said:

Suffering is the medicine pleasure the disease. 

 

Also this place and time is inverted. And all worldly thrones subverted. 

beautifully stated brother. as you say often, amen.

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4 hours ago, puzzled said:

yeah we see things which just don't make sense to us and then we end up trying to figure out why it happens only to end up more confused. Truth is we just can't see the bigger picture.

Solely attempting to intellectually understanding His Hukam ends in fatigue, in my own experience.

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13 hours ago, californiasardar1 said:

 

Punjab was never unified.

 

Most of what is now the current state of Punjab in India was not part of Ranjit Singh's empire.

Probably half of the Sikh population of the time lived outside of the borders of Ranjit Singh's empire.

Sikhs were living in Ranjit SIngh raj in high numbers and they were not living in any other country except of Ranjit singh's Punjab. If you look at the current map of punjab, it wasn't like that during ranjit singh's time. Most of the area after Majha area was very isolated was not densely populated (Doaba/Malwa etc). 

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On 12/8/2020 at 3:31 PM, ChardikalaUK said:

Do the Italians go on about Julius Caesar, the French about William The Conqueror, the Muslims about Aurangzeb anywhere near the amount as we do about Maharaja Ranjit Singh?

Because all of them had loads and loads of rulers. We just had 1 ranjit singh. 

 

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It is highly unlikely that Maharaja Ranjit Singh memorized Dasam-Granth.   We have very detailed chronicles of daily activities of the Lahore Darbar, and there is no mention of Dasam Granth or Bachitar Natak  in these archives.

Lala Sohan Lal Suri, the official chronicler, and a record keeper of Maharaja Ranjit Singh, documented detailed activities of the Maharaja over several decades.  These chronicles  called Umdat-Ut-Tawarikh have been translated from Persian into English and Punjabi.  Online  searchable version is available on the internet.  References to Guru Granth Sahib are very common in these archives, however, there isn't a single reference to Dasam Granth or Bachitar Natak.  If the Maharaja read Dasam Granth regularly to the extent of memorizing it you would expect at least some mention of it in this voluminous archive.  Lack of any mention would suggest that the Maharaja Ranjit Singh was not exposed to Dasam Granth.

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On 12/12/2020 at 2:17 AM, IJJSingh said:

It is highly unlikely that Maharaja Ranjit Singh memorized Dasam-Granth.   We have very detailed chronicles of daily activities of the Lahore Darbar, and there is no mention of Dasam Granth or Bachitar Natak  in these archives.

Lala Sohan Lal Suri, the official chronicler, and a record keeper of Maharaja Ranjit Singh, documented detailed activities of the Maharaja over several decades.  These chronicles  called Umdat-Ut-Tawarikh have been translated from Persian into English and Punjabi.  Online  searchable version is available on the internet.  References to Guru Granth Sahib are very common in these archives, however, there isn't a single reference to Dasam Granth or Bachitar Natak.  If the Maharaja read Dasam Granth regularly to the extent of memorizing it you would expect at least some mention of it in this voluminous archive.  Lack of any mention would suggest that the Maharaja Ranjit Singh was not exposed to Dasam Granth.

Hiya.

 

It'd be nice if you could tell us where we might be able to get hold of the English translations of Umdat-Ut-Tawarikh. 

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Just now, dallysingh101 said:

Hiya.

 

It'd be nice if you could tell us where we might be able to get hold of the English translations of Umdat-Ut-Tawarikh. 

You can read it on the Punjabi digital library site though its only a short cut down version I believe.

The archive site has volume 2 and 4, or 2 and 3 of it. 

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On 12/8/2020 at 11:20 AM, californiasardar1 said:

 

Punjab was never unified.

 

Most of what is now the current state of Punjab in India was not part of Ranjit Singh's empire.

Probably half of the Sikh population of the time lived outside of the borders of Ranjit Singh's empire.

Primarily because the Phulkian rajas chose to be British lapdogs. Ancestors of modern day traitor Capt Amrinder. 

His sexually relaxed behavior aside, the man was not a joke. You don't get to the stage he got to be by being JUST a "drunken" sex addict. He was a mere child when his military career began, and rose to consolidate power over much of Punjab. He wasn't no Gursikh, but he was definitely one of the more able military leaders we've had. Anyone who can't respect him in that sense is holding some odd grudge against him. 

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