Nitnem on journey

[1Anonymous1]

52 minutes ago, ipledgeblue said:

However I do think that listening is also a good aid for memorising bani as well, such as in work situations, or trips and journeys.

Also some people have longer nitnem, they do paat of Shabad Hazare and Shabad Hazare patshahi 10, Chaupai Sahib and even Benti Chaupai length may differ. they may also read an additional Swaiye staring Deenan Ki Pratipal, and some sampradaiye also read Chandi Di Vaar and Uggardanti as part of nitnem as well! Also for evening nitnem they may read very long Chaupai Sahib for Sodar Rehras as well as long Aarti Aarta afterwards, and for night Rakhiya deh Shabad along with Keertan Sohila.

I’m on about 5 baniyan nitnem should be memorised no matter what. The rest is fine.

plus I know many singhs who have panj granthi kanth, also a Singh who has akal ustat memorised. He recited naam swaas swaas and akal ustat in surti. Can you imagine the anand! 
 

You’ll find with listening people will get used to it and will be lazy to learn to read gurmukhi. In the first stages it’s alright but we should be reciting it ourselves. The best thing to do when listening is that recite it along with the Singh. Don’t just sit there listening, your mind will wonder. Only a naam abhyaasi who’s practiced the shabad can stop all thoughts and listen with ek man ek chit. This comes with practice. This is what maharaj is rehras sahib is saying is the hardest thing to do. Akhan aukha sacha naao. 
 

The required minimum is 5 baniyan this should be memorised, and if a Singh has prem for bani he will memorise the rest.

plus Guru jis 52 hukams one is to get bani kant 

[ssinghuk]

Eight to nine months of starvation, driven from their home at the dead of night, their family torn and forced into moving into different directions, the wind, cold and rain, a heavily armed and outnumbering force of Indian forces fast approaching them............ but still Sri Guru Gobind Singh Maharaj insisted that their Nitneym MUST be COMPLETE before they can move on.

That's the standard our Pitta has set. Lets try to follow as much as possible. 

[BhForce]

On 12/20/2020 at 9:55 AM, Dsinghd said:

I always do Nitnem but i was talking about Aeroplanes. Next time i know to do it whilst flying.

I agree if missed out then do double next day.

OK, so as far as "normal" journeys (like driving from Los Angeles to San Diego or something), there's no reason you should have to miss your Nitnem.

With long airplane journeys, especially where you're crossing the international date line and multiple time zones, it might be unclear when a "new day" starts for the purposes of doing Nitnem. 

So as long as you make a bona fide effort to do Nitnem, I don't think you can said to have "missed" your Nitnem.

But don't go the entire journey of 22-24 hours (plus holdovers) and fail to do Nitnem just because you're "on a journey." when you get a chance, just wash up and do paath.

[Singh375]

Guru Sahib Ji’s happiness is on completion of nitnem. 

When starting the journey of Sikhi my ardaas was Guru Sahib please wake me up at 6am to read Japji Sahib. (I started with Japji Sahib and built up to 5 baani slowly).

Guru’s blessing at 6am my eyes automatically opened wide. It continued, each day my eyes open, when I look at clock it’s bang on 6am down to the second. 

One day (weekend) I got lazy that I’ll sleep 5 more mins and closed my eyes. I heard a voice ‘fine stay sleeping’. Then a crushing pain on my right leg. I was screaming and biting the duvet so my family didn’t hear. Hours I couldn’t move. Finally when it felt ok to move same thing happens on my left leg  

Either it was Guru Sahib or a Shaheed Singh punishing me I’m not sure 

Guru Sahib really aren’t happy if nitnem is missed   

[Dsinghd]

How are you supposed to do Ishnaan on a plane?

[ssinghuk]

1 hour ago, Dsinghd said:

How are you supposed to do Ishnaan on a plane?

Obviously for economy paying travellers Isnaan wont be possible. However the next best thing is washing hands, feet and face thoroughly. If you are feeling ambitious then you could have a go at combing your kes and retying your dastar in the "spacious" toilet cabin!

If Nitnem with Isnaan is standard you don't want to loosen then you could even purchase a ticket that gives you access to a shower! 

The point is that you should try do whatever you see as, at the very least reasonable, to get your Nitnem done. 

[1Anonymous1]

Just try and get a midday flight lol 

[GurjantGnostic]

Let's say Isnaan isn't possible. What's better? Skipping Isnaan and Nitnem or having to skip Isnaan and then doing your Nitnem?

 

Whether a flight is long or short, or whatever time it occurs, or how much Isnaan one can do, one can still use travel as an opportunity to do many hours Naam Simran or many hours Nitnem. 

[brotha]

13 hours ago, Singh375 said:

Guru Sahib Ji’s happiness is on completion of nitnem. 

When starting the journey of Sikhi my ardaas was Guru Sahib please wake me up at 6am to read Japji Sahib. (I started with Japji Sahib and built up to 5 baani slowly).

Guru’s blessing at 6am my eyes automatically opened wide. It continued, each day my eyes open, when I look at clock it’s bang on 6am down to the second. 

One day (weekend) I got lazy that I’ll sleep 5 more mins and closed my eyes. I heard a voice ‘fine stay sleeping’. Then a crushing pain on my right leg. I was screaming and biting the duvet so my family didn’t hear. Hours I couldn’t move. Finally when it felt ok to move same thing happens on my left leg  

Either it was Guru Sahib or a Shaheed Singh punishing me I’m not sure 

Guru Sahib really aren’t happy if nitnem is missed   

It is good to do spiritual practices, but please do no give the wrong picture of Guru Sahib wanting to punish for not getting up and do those practices.

Guru Sahib is not any fascist nor any such cultist extremist to punish for not doing His bhakti. He has no such "laalach" for us to perform our devotion.

Our relation with Him is of utter and unselfish love, that´s it. 

So what if one for some reason can not attend the regular time, it can be done at any other time, His doors are always open, there are no restrictions like school timings or work timings...or be it anything else.

The Bani oftenly says: Aath pahaer aradheeyeh pooran Satgur gyan, so you see, at our physical level we are limited to many things, but, at His darbar, anytime is most welcome, provided we fulfill our daily devotion at His lotus feet.

We must understand that, missing one day in our daily devotion, is the biggest penalty by itself.

Singh Jee, your posts are usually inspirational, but here today I have to say, it is not correct the picture you have given of Guru Sahib, who is the embodiment of perfect and pure love, prem and mercy.

That´s it.

 

 

[Singh375]

On 12/25/2020 at 9:25 PM, brotha said:

Singh Jee

I was 13. The experience stopped me turning lazy