Sarbloh Granth

[Guest Guest 111]

Is Sarbloh Granth considered to be part of the final Guru also ? If so how ?

[Arsh1469]

No it's a separate granth wrriten by Guru Gobind Singh Ji.

[Koi]

Aad, Dasam and Sarbloh Guru Granth Sahib Ji, three separate Granths, are all treated the same by the Khalsa. Aad Guru Darbar is the (Tikka) Guru, and Dasam and Sarbloh, being the baani of 10th Guru, are given the same respect/worship. 

[Jonny101]

I was not a believer Sri Sarbloh Granth before but now I am.  Listen to Katha of Sarbloh Granth. It is an ocean of Gyan. 

[Arsh1469]

16 hours ago, Koi said:

Aad, Dasam and Sarbloh Guru Granth Sahib Ji, three separate Granths, are all treated the same by the Khalsa. Aad Guru Darbar is the (Tikka) Guru, and Dasam and Sarbloh, being the baani of 10th Guru, are given the same respect/worship. 

Why do some people call Dasam Granth and Sarbloh Granth Guru ji? Isn't Guru Granth Sahib Ji the guru?

(I 110% believe in Dasan and Sarbloh bani)

[Koi]

12 hours ago, Arsh1469 said:

Why do some people call Dasam Granth and Sarbloh Granth Guru ji? Isn't Guru Granth Sahib Ji the guru?

(I 110% believe in Dasan and Sarbloh bani)

Well, let me put it this way. It all depends if you see a difference between then. Aad Guru Darbar was referred to as "Guru Granth " since time of Guru Arjan Paatshaah. 

The other way to look at it is this: the 10th Guru gave Gurgaddi to the Guru Khalsa Panth (once in Chamkaur, once in Nanded). Now, the Guru Khalsa Panth, being the Guru, has the authority to vest the same Guruship and authority as Aad Guru Darbar.

Just as Guru Nanak Maharaj wrote Jap Ji, in their 10th form they wrote Jaap Sahib. Same thing, no difference. 

Lastly, respecting Dasam and Sarbloh like this takes nothing away from the respect and worship of the Aad Guru Darbar. 

Akaal.

[jkvlondon]

13 hours ago, Arsh1469 said:

Why do some people call Dasam Granth and Sarbloh Granth Guru ji? Isn't Guru Granth Sahib Ji the guru?

(I 110% believe in Dasan and Sarbloh bani)

because gurvak IS Guru ji for us

[Arsh1469]

5 hours ago, Koi said:

Well, let me put it this way. It all depends if you see a difference between then. Aad Guru Darbar was referred to as "Guru Granth " since time of Guru Arjan Paatshaah. 

The other way to look at it is this: the 10th Guru gave Gurgaddi to the Guru Khalsa Panth (once in Chamkaur, once in Nanded). Now, the Guru Khalsa Panth, being the Guru, has the authority to vest the same Guruship and authority as Aad Guru Darbar.

Just as Guru Nanak Maharaj wrote Jap Ji, in their 10th form they wrote Jaap Sahib. Same thing, no difference. 

Lastly, respecting Dasam and Sarbloh like this takes nothing away from the respect and worship of the Aad Guru Darbar. 

Akaal.

Ok thanks for the information.

[1Anonymous1]

Guru Granth Sahib ji is pooran Guru all on there own. I’ve heard *some* nihang singhs say that Guru Granth Sahib is incomplete without all three Granths, when all there are together then it’s pooran Sargon saroop of akal purakh and maharaj. That is nonsense, maharaj is complete on there own. Even if they didn’t have takhat, chandowa or chour they are still king of kings. We add these for our sharda. 

ਜੇਸਭਿਮਿਲਿਕੈਆਖਣਪਾਹਿ ॥

ਵਡਾਨਹੋਵੈਘਾਟਿਨਜਾਇ ॥
 

Dasam and Sarbloh Granth is also maharaj bani and 100% satkaryog  but it was not given gurgaddi. It’s only some nihangs which consider Guru Granth Sahib “complete” if it’s on the same takhat as dasam and sarbloh Granth. 
 

Infact in the times of guru ji and the small time after, dasam Granth was called “dasve paatshah ka granth” I don’t think in any historical text you’ll find: dasam Guru Granth Sahib or sarbloh Guru Granth Sahib anywhere. 

Dasam paatshah jis bani is 100% sat. But Guru Granth Sahib ji was given gurgaddi alone on the takhat sahib, if dasam and sarbloh bani was on takhat as well then it’s different. 
Gurgaddi was also given to Khalsa panth alone. 
 

anyone is welcome to their own belief and I’m not attacking or putting any one down. But I just want to stress that maharaj alone was given gaddi, and alone they are complete. 
 

[1Anonymous1]

On 12/25/2020 at 2:14 PM, jkvlondon said:

because gurvak IS Guru ji for us

Doesn’t that mean that the hukamname of guru ji and rehatname are also guru ji? They are also gurvak. Should we say rehatname Guru Granth Sahib?