ex sikhs are not sikhs

[dallysingh101]

8 minutes ago, MisterrSingh said:

They've never had that kind of situation on their doorstep, in their face, as it were. Their entire "programming" has lead them to believe their land is a fortress that can never be breached. I do wonder how they'll respond.

Nah, you're wrong, they are VERY concerned about being breached right now. That's what will push them to go stronger with removing immigrants (esp. nonwhite ones), and assimilation drives (which usually target malleable, attractive ethnic women). They'll also try and re-implement the strategy they tried in the recent past and try and make our lives as difficult as possible at ground level. 

Some of them have kept up their rawness during their retreating into the woodwork phase. They can see the condition of our younger generation. A lot of their younger ones have been taught about how their fathers/uncles openly treated ethnics as a model to re-establish if possible. 

[dallysingh101]

2 minutes ago, proudkaur21 said:

I think we are in an even worse position but you never know. Sikhs were almost decimated at one point but here we are now. 

I think hopelessness is a infinitely more dangerous enemy than any other people/community myself sister. 

[dallysingh101]

4 minutes ago, proactive said:

No such theology was taught during British times. The all paths lead to God theology is entirely a post 1947 development. 

That Singh Sabha thing isn't even close to Sikhi. It's more christian.   

[BhForce]

15 minutes ago, MisterrSingh said:

Seems like a stacked game where the only loser is Man, who, ironically, has the least power to affect the outcome, but who is expected to give the most in a desperate uphill struggle that he can never win.

Well, that's the perspective of Gurbani that everything is within God's hands:
ਸੋਈ ਹੋਇ ਜਿ ਕਰਤੇ ਭਾਵੈ ਕਹਿ ਕੈ ਆਪੁ ਵਞਾਵਣਾ ॥੧੩॥

That alone happens, which is pleasing to the Creator; speaking of himself, the mortal loses himself. ||13|| p1086

 

[MisterrSingh]

3 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

Some of them have kept up their rawness during their retreating into the woodwork phase. They can see the condition of our younger generation. A lot of their younger ones have been taught about how their fathers/uncles openly treated ethnics as a model to re-establish if possible. 

Who? The ones cutting their cocks off and pretending to be women? The ones who are terrified of being "cancelled" for even looking at an ethnic the wrong way, lol? The ones running off to the Mediterranean to escape the brown folk? Where do you live where society still functions according to the social mores of 1950-1985?

[proactive]

Just now, dallysingh101 said:

That Singh Sabha thing isn't even close to Sikhi. It's more christian.   

That's where we differ, you think Singh Sabha was a British creation while I see them as acting to save Sikhi from being just another Panth. If anything their sanatan opponents were the ones who thought you could worship at a Mandir in the morning, a Sufi shrine in the afternoon and a Gurdwara in the evening and you could still call yourself a Sikh. 

[dallysingh101]

6 minutes ago, MisterrSingh said:

Their political leadership is going to abandon them. Their media / press class despises them.

You're still labouring under the mistaken belief that the People and their Leaders are one. Wake up. It's too late in the game to be clinging to 70-80 year old narratives. The world has changed, is changing, and will continue to change beyond recognition.

You don't even see what's under your nose. I've seen the links between middle england and the working class.  It isn't non-existent, as you seem to be under the illusion of. 

I'm not talking about formal relationships, but things unspoken but clearly understood in that society. Something we don't do well at all (if we do it at all). 

Things don't usually change, they just go around in cycles. The one coming is obvious. It's only rural dimwits that don't see these things until they are upon us - as evidenced at partition.  

[dallysingh101]

3 minutes ago, MisterrSingh said:

Who? The ones cutting their cocks off and pretending to be women? The ones who are terrified of being "cancelled" for even looking at an ethnic the wrong way, lol? The ones running off to the Mediterranean to escape the brown folk? Where do you live where society still functions according to the social mores of 1950-1985?

Bro, I think you've been hanging around gays and pu55ies too much. 

[MisterrSingh]

4 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

You don't even see what's under your nose. I've seen the links between middle england and the working class.  It isn't non-existent, as you seem to be under the illusion of. 

I'm not talking about formal relationships, but things unspoken but clearly understood in that society. Something we don't do well at all (if we do it at all). 

Things don't usually change, they just go around in cycles. The one coming is obvious. It's only rural dimwits that don't see these things until they are upon us - as evidenced at partition.  

 

3 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

Bro, I think you've been hanging around gays and pu55ies too much. 

It's an absolute waste of time trying to discuss these issues with you. Your hatred for whites and your complete denial of reality because it'll rock everything you believe in means there's just no point in trying to get to the bottom of these issues with you.

I understand these issues VERY well, more than you'll ever appreciate. You're neuroses, whatever they are, will keep you ignorant and afraid. Unless you have something fresh to add, jog on.

[dallysingh101]

2 minutes ago, proactive said:

That's where we differ, you think Singh Sabha was a British creation while I see them as acting to save Sikhi from being just another Panth. If anything their sanatan opponents were the ones who thought you could worship at a Mandir in the morning, a Sufi shrine in the afternoon and a Gurdwara in the evening and you could still call yourself a Sikh. 

I get what you are saying, it's just that demarcation between Sikhs and other panths (that was always there) wasn't built along abrahamic type/dualistic notions. It was along different lines.

It's a complicated matter, that requires further studying. Even I'm not claiming to fully understand it, but to think we were colonised for a century and not heavily manipulated (by people with a long history and experience in this) seems to be bordering on the delusional.