Bhai Dharam Singh nihang

[GurjantGnostic]

5 hours ago, Jonny101 said:

He is a heretic. His views are very missionary like. Only difference between him and missionaries is that he believes in Dasam Granth while missionaries don't. But otherwise their beliefs, ideology is identical. From my interaction with Dharm Singh's chellas online, they are worse than missionaries. They insult our Shaheeds especially if that Shaheed is associated with the Taksal. 

They just look like Nihangs, but there is absolutely nothing Nihang like about them. Wolves in sheep's clothing. Dharam Singh also has close relations with prominent missionaries. They invite him to give lectures to their so called college since their heretical ideology is the same

Very interesting. 

Which Shaheeds did he disrespect?

That's the stuff I dont like

What kind of ideology have you encountered that's in line with missionaries?

I'm still ignorant of what missionaries are to a degree but getting an idea. 

[Jonny101]

1 hour ago, GurjantGnostic said:

Very interesting. 

Which Shaheeds did he disrespect?

That's the stuff I dont like

What kind of ideology have you encountered that's in line with missionaries?

I'm still ignorant of what missionaries are to a degree but getting an idea. 

They don't believe in any of the core Sikh beliefs. They don't believe in Naam Simran, Amritvela, concept of reincarnation or even concept of bad or good Karmas (paap or Punn) in relation to reincarnation. They talk against doing Yatra to historical Gurdwaras. Whenever Gurbani mentions anything they don't agree with they call it metaphor.

His Chellas are the worst people I have encountered. Worse than missionaries. I have encountered his Chellas who insult Kharku Singhs on Facebook. Dharma is a GOI agent like Dhandri.

 

[GurjantGnostic]

4 hours ago, Jonny101 said:

They don't believe in any of the core Sikh beliefs. They don't believe in Naam Simran, Amritvela, concept of reincarnation or even concept of bad or good Karmas (paap or Punn) in relation to reincarnation. They talk against doing Yatra to historical Gurdwaras. Whenever Gurbani mentions anything they don't agree with they call it metaphor.

His Chellas are the worst people I have encountered. Worse than missionaries. I have encountered his Chellas who insult Kharku Singhs on Facebook. Dharma is a GOI agent like Dhandri.

 

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[Jacfsing2]

I don’t think he’s going to Pesh, as his branch of Nihangs, (as well as chelas), don’t recognize either the SGPC Jathedar nor the Sarbat Khalsa Jathedar, they believe Buddha Dal should have rule over Akal Takht.

[ipledgeblue]

1 hour ago, Jacfsing2 said:

I don’t think he’s going to Pesh, as his branch of Nihangs, (as well as chelas), don’t recognize either the SGPC Jathedar nor the Sarbat Khalsa Jathedar, they believe Buddha Dal should have rule over Akal Takht.

generally Nihang Singhs don't bow down to any authority except Guru, and since the Akal Takht is "occupied" and currently not recognised as the Akali Bunga, I don't see why they would bow down to any SGPC associated president-jathedaar, just doesn't fit into their ideology,

[dharamyudh]

Yup. Nihangs, with the exception with Balbir's group, don't care what the SGPC has to say. So in essence, a tankhaiya from them really doesn't even matter. They don't even consider these guys as the panth. Nihangs only answer to Dal Panth and the Jathedar only. 

[Jacfsing2]

44 minutes ago, dharamyudh said:

Yup. Nihangs, with the exception with Balbir's group, don't care what the SGPC has to say. So in essence, a tankhaiya from them really doesn't even matter. They don't even consider these guys as the panth. Nihangs only answer to Dal Panth and the Jathedar only. 

Who do mainstream Nihangs consider as Buddha Dal Jathedar? 

[dharamyudh]

1 hour ago, Jacfsing2 said:

Who do mainstream Nihangs consider as Buddha Dal Jathedar? 

Jathedar Baba Maan Singh Ji 96k (middle). Babaji and the Buddha Dal fauj have been on the frontlines at the morcha for a while. 

[Raj9]

On 11/10/2021 at 1:29 PM, ipledgeblue said:

generally Nihang Singhs don't bow down to any authority except Guru, and since the Akal Takht is "occupied" and currently not recognised as the Akali Bunga, I don't see why they would bow down to any SGPC associated president-jathedaar, just doesn't fit into their ideology,

 

On 11/10/2021 at 11:39 AM, Jacfsing2 said:

I don’t think he’s going to Pesh, as his branch of Nihangs, (as well as chelas), don’t recognize either the SGPC Jathedar nor the Sarbat Khalsa Jathedar, they believe Buddha Dal should have rule over Akal Takht.

He (Dharam singh) don’t belive in rule. He belive in hukam. Only god can rule.

[BhForce]

On 11/10/2021 at 12:25 PM, dharamyudh said:

Yup. Nihangs, with the exception with Balbir's group, don't care what the SGPC has to say. So in essence, a tankhaiya from them really doesn't even matter. They don't even consider these guys as the panth. 

So why do "Nihangs" accept donations from "average" Sikhs if the latter are not part of what they consider the Panth?

Guru Nanak Dev ji says:

ਜੇ ਓਇ ਦਿਸਹਿ ਨਰਕਿ ਜਾਂਦੇ ਤਾਂ ਉਨ੍ਹ ਕਾ ਦਾਨੁ ਨ ਲੈਣਾ ॥
If they (deesah-i) are seen by you (jaandy) going (narak-i) to hell, then you should not (lainaa) be taking (aunh) their (daan-u) charity.
ਦੇਂਦਾ ਨਰਕਿ ਸੁਰਗਿ ਲੈਦੇ ਦੇਖਹੁ ਏਹੁ ਧਿਙਾਣਾ ॥
(Deykhahu) look at (ehu) this (dhinknaana) injustice;whereby (deynda) the giver goes (narak-i) to hell and (laidey) the receivers (surag-i) to heaven.

p1289

On 11/10/2021 at 12:25 PM, dharamyudh said:

 Nihangs only answer to Dal Panth and the Jathedar only. 

OK, so why does "Dharam" Singh say the bakwas that he says? Nihangs don't preach all the stuff that he says.