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1 hour ago, ipledgeblue said:

I mean grandparents generation they used to just marry you off as a teenager and then you didn't need to do all this stuff.

Guru ji said go into grihast jeevan, live the life of a householder.

Please - it is not my fault we have taken a western lifestyle and are marrying late, leaving us vulnerable to 5 vikaar!

 

Please excuse me....

Fully agree. All this Western ideas and philosophies have made us go deeper into kal yug. Guys the West is KAL JUG. Marrying after trying out various sex partners.

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2 hours ago, singhsince1981 said:

Fully agree. All this Western ideas and philosophies have made us go deeper into kal yug. Guys the West is KAL JUG. Marrying after trying out various sex partners.

really stupid whoever voted you down for this. probably thinks sikhs should go make boyfriend girlfriend kanjar gham.

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30 minutes ago, ipledgeblue said:

really stupid whoever voted you down for this. probably thinks sikhs should go make boyfriend girlfriend kanjar gham.

I dont know who did it, but I dont care myself. Looking at the way things are going and the way western culture and way of thinking has taken over the world, I am sure the Art of Self-Realization or Brahmgyan whatever you call will be totally lost. 

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2 hours ago, singhsince1981 said:

I dont know who did it, but I dont care myself. Looking at the way things are going and the way western culture and way of thinking has taken over the world, I am sure the Art of Self-Realization or Brahmgyan whatever you call will be totally lost. 

Sikhi will survive. No speaking for the rest. 

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To the OP (Original Poster),

I would like to say that overcoming kaam is possible, even if difficult. To raise your hopes there are people I know who have overcome this evil.

The weapons that you need are as follows:

1) Consistent True ardaas, throughout the day and all times.

2) Development of intense prema bhagti. For example if ur addicted to video games, you will only think games. You must do the same with preme bhagti.

3) Think of your body as a house, where you want Guru Ji to enter and stay. Would you want Guru ji to enter your body if there was all this kaam inside.

4) Avoid all situations, scenarios where kaam can arise. For example such movies, TVs, going out in summer where u encounter bad scenario.

5) Make your mind busy in Sikhi only all the time.

Hope this helps.

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13 minutes ago, singhsince1981 said:

To the OP (Original Poster),

I would like to say that overcoming kaam is possible, even if difficult. To raise your hopes there are people I know who have overcome this evil.

The weapons that you need are as follows:

1) Consistent True ardaas, throughout the day and all times.

2) Development of intense prema bhagti. For example if ur addicted to video games, you will only think games. You must do the same with preme bhagti.

3) Think of your body as a house, where you want Guru Ji to enter and stay. Would you want Guru ji to enter your body if there was all this kaam inside.

4) Avoid all situations, scenarios where kaam can arise. For example such movies, TVs, going out in summer where u encounter bad scenario.

5) Make your mind busy in Sikhi only all the time.

Hope this helps.

Wrong. Naam. 

And you should have started with this more actual response in the first place. 

Oh and meths a horrible substance. You should get off it. 

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On 1/20/2021 at 4:55 PM, Ocdperson said:

But don’t you forget Naam while taking a test in school or watching a movie because both those things draw full attention. No disrespect just curious 

Thats why some things are forbidden while some are just frowned upon. There r different restrictions and different types of bad things.

The things that are considered the worst will affect not only ur spiritual life but also ur physical life such as health and society and ur family as well: such as stealing, using drugs, lust, bf gf stuff.

If u look at people who are poor especially in developed coungries like america is is because they have indulged in these worst things and ruined their life and their families and future generations. Like having kids out of wedlock, stealing and going to jail, drugs etc. (Excluding mental illness)

I know you are going to say, thats not what im referring to. Masturbation wont ruin ur life to that extent, but it is a cop out. U r taking the easy way out. Instead of fighting one of the grandest hardest fights against ur mind, against mahabir lust, ur giving in. 

Like bhai jagraj singh of basics used to say, sikhi doeant have too many rules, thats why we have a lot of grey areas and these questions arise, because each person can decide for themselves based on their goals.

People who are really strongly on the path of spirituality  will want to avoid movies, songs, sports. And will try to restrain their mind at all times.

But as grihisti sikhs if we arent going to go to that extent. That doesnt mean we give in and allow anything. Just youtube it, so many ppl talking about no fap and its benefits, cold baths, dopamine fast, meditation.  Shouldnt sikhs be of a higher caliber?

We r forgetting, more than saint soldiers, we were made monk householders, grihisti yogis. We were supposed to strive for mukti, liberation while raising family, living in the world and trying to save the world. Any of these goals is hard to do and takes a lifetime, so as sikhs how can we have time for pleasures when such heavy duties await us?

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32 minutes ago, Not2Cool2Argue said:

 

We r forgetting, more than saint soldiers, we were made monk householders, grihsthi yogis

Very very good answer. You just said what my heart always wanted to hear. Thanks for reminding me who I am “Grihsthi Yogi”. Infact one hour ago I was thinking the exact thing. We are Sadhus, but householder sadhus.  I always had an ambition to be a Sadhu. 
 

Is there any benefit to taking cold shower?

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20 minutes ago, singhsince1981 said:

Is there any benefit to taking cold shower?

Yes. In fact it is the maryada for many jathas and sampardas such as gurmat bibek a type of akj. It speeds up the heart kind of like aerobic exercise. Gets the blood moving stimulates stress response lol. And it really wakes u up and get the simran going. Wahegurrru ;) And look up wim hoff, he made a career out of this. When gore get into something they go all in. 

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2 minutes ago, Not2Cool2Argue said:

Yes. In fact it is the maryada for many jathas and sampardas such as gurmat bibek a type of akj. It speeds up the heart kind of like aerobic exercise. Gets the blood moving stimulates stress response lol. And it really wakes u up and get the simran going. Wahegurrru ;) And look up wim hoff, he made a career out of this. When gore get into something they go all in. 

I did take a course from Wim Hoff and I have been praticing cold shower 8 - 11 degree temperature for months now. 
He also teaches deep breathing is there benefit to it. Does it go along with Sikhi.

BTW Cold shower no longer feels cold to me. 

 

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5 hours ago, singhsince1981 said:

4) Avoid all situations, scenarios where kaam can arise. For example such movies, TVs, going out in summer where u encounter bad scenario.

I'm glad you live in a world where bills and payments are suspended during the summer months because going out and seeing sweaty Indian women makes you j@ck off when you get home.

Wouldn't it be better to build up a resistance or immunity through exposure rather than avoidance?

Are you sure you're a Sikh?

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1 hour ago, MisterrSingh said:

I'm glad you live in a world where bills and payments are suspended during the summer months because going out and seeing sweaty Indian women makes you j@ck off when you get home.

Wouldn't it be better to build up a resistance or immunity through exposure rather than avoidance?

Are you sure you're a Sikh?

Bro, I am Sikh. You misunderstood and no Im not talking about sweaty Indian females. Nice analogy. But No.

 In the Summer-  its a different situation not the kind type you describe. I dont know where you live, but in some places it can be very different and very kaam-ic mahoul.

In the initial stages to build immunity, you have to do a little bit of avoidance. You have to break old habits. In many societies its common for men and women to be always checking out each other (that stare, glance, gaze). Whatever. You have to do avoidance initially.... to STOP the growth of Kaam thoughts. Once you get a hang of it. Its alright. 

Some Mahapursh never met / spoke to Women alone.

Some Mahapursh didnt even meet their wife alone. They met in the presence of 4 singhs. 

If you want to know the names. I can give you in private PM.

Im talking about pooran / brahmgyani Famous Mahapursh. 

Once you get a SINGLE thought, you have already materialized kaam into gross energy and have set the motion. Its not the ACT that you need to prevent, its the thought that you need to prevent.

Hope this helps. 
 

 

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6 hours ago, singhsince1981 said:

Bro, I am Sikh. You misunderstood and no Im not talking about sweaty Indian females. Nice analogy. But No.

 In the Summer-  its a different situation not the kind type you describe. I dont know where you live, but in some places it can be very different and very kaam-ic mahoul.

In the initial stages to build immunity, you have to do a little bit of avoidance. You have to break old habits. In many societies its common for men and women to be always checking out each other (that stare, glance, gaze). Whatever. You have to do avoidance initially.... to STOP the growth of Kaam thoughts. Once you get a hang of it. Its alright. 

Some Mahapursh never met / spoke to Women alone.

Some Mahapursh didnt even meet their wife alone. They met in the presence of 4 singhs. 

If you want to know the names. I can give you in private PM.

Im talking about pooran / brahmgyani Famous Mahapursh. 

Once you get a SINGLE thought, you have already materialized kaam into gross energy and have set the motion. Its not the ACT that you need to prevent, its the thought that you need to prevent.

Hope this helps. 
 

Do you get sexually aroused by a woman's glance to the extent where you are compelled to relieve yourself in a sexual manner later on? 

I think this is more of a typically Indian pervy thing, and not applicable to most other cultures in a broad sense.

If you look at a woman and your only thoughts are of how you'd like to enjoy her, again that's your problem.

Explain to me how a culture that promotes mental discipline as it relates to curbing kaamic activity of the mind also has an embarrassing reputation as one of the rape hotspots of the world. Why do these otherwise degenerate westerners with various other vices not go around raping indiscriminately in their countries like they do in India? 

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57 minutes ago, MisterrSingh said:

Do you get sexually aroused by a woman's glance to the extent where you are compelled to relieve yourself in a sexual manner later on? 

I think this is more of a typically Indian pervy thing, and not applicable to most other cultures in a broad sense.

If you look at a woman and your only thoughts are of how you'd like to enjoy her, again that's your problem.

 

Explain to me how a culture that promotes mental discipline as it relates to curbing kaamic activity of the mind also has an embarrassing reputation as one of the rape hotspots of the world. Why do these otherwise degenerate westerners with various other vices not go around raping indiscriminately in their countries like they do in India? 

True. To be honest. I do not know the answer to each and every question and each person thinks differently. So I do not know everything 100%
 

A few years ago 5 professional British Soldiers arrived in Canada for joint training. They then gang raped a Canadian female soldier. The news was kept hidden out of media - to prevent bad naming of Canadian Forces and / or British Soldier.

You can read the article here: 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/british-sailors-accused-in-halifax-gang-rape-photographed-assault-court-documents-1.3137650
 

Similarly in Iraq girls as little as 14 year olds were getting raped by US Army. 
 

Rape is not an Indian problem, but a worldwide issue. Rest you can believe and think whatever you like about me. 🙏

 

 

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