Operation Rakshak 1980 - Hindu Government Killing Sikhs

[MisterrSingh]

12 hours ago, dharamyudh said:

I honestly do not know. In the past, the panth was our only true identity. Now, we have people saying "I am Indian before Sikh." Furthermore,  no one really understands the Sikh psyche other than Sikhs and I feel like the Indian government used that to their advantage (KPS Gill and other "Sikhs").   

My theory is that if we could get a generation of Sikhs that strike a balance between undying loyalty for the faith and a desire to see it thrive but also possess some intellectual, big-picture qualities that translate to understanding the ground reality of human nature and how to work with it in order to achieve something positive for our people, we'd be able to move forward in a positive way.

I don't like the way the Punjabi mind works on various levels. Our intellectual growth (i.e. the ability to think clearly on an individual level, not anything to do with the intelligentsia or academics) has been retarded the more we've been weighed down among Indian life. Indian Sikhs are tainted by Hindustani thought. Western Sikhs inadvertently absorb the worst of Western thought. We become slaves to foreign thought that suggests as its subtext that we as a group don't actually matter.

The reason the brightest and best from Sikh backgrounds don't gravitate to our religious and cultural philosophy to use it as basis for living and perceiving their reality is because we currently have nothing to show for it on a temporal basis. Humans are ultimately shallow and tend to measure the value and validity of something based on its power, numbers, and popularity. Actual substance is irrelevant as crazy as that may sound. Neither the Indian and the western ways are completely useless, but we don't possess the faculties to sift through and decide accordingly. We follow too easily. When we follow people who should never be followed we end up falling farther from where we should be. It's complicated and difficult to describe because there's so much going on.

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32 minutes ago, MisterrSingh said:

My theory is that if we could get a generation of Sikhs that strike a balance between undying loyalty for the faith and a desire to see it thrive but also possess some intellectual, big-picture qualities that translate to understanding the ground reality of human nature and how to work with it in order to achieve something positive for our people, we'd be able to move forward in a positive way.

I don't like the way the Punjabi mind works on various levels. Our intellectual growth (i.e. the ability to think clearly on an individual level, not anything to do with the intelligentsia or academics) has been retarded the more we've been weighed down among Indian life. Indian Sikhs are tainted by Hindustani thought. Western Sikhs inadvertently absorb the worst of Western thought. We become slaves to foreign thought that suggests as its subtext that we as a group don't actually matter.

The reason the brightest and best from Sikh backgrounds don't gravitate to our religious and cultural philosophy to use it as basis for living and perceiving their reality is because we currently have nothing to show for it on a temporal basis. Humans are ultimately shallow and tend to measure the value and validity of something based on its power, numbers, and popularity. Actual substance is irrelevant as crazy as that may sound. Neither the Indian and the western ways are completely useless, but we don't possess the faculties to sift through and decide accordingly. We follow too easily. When we follow people who should never be followed we end up falling farther from where we should be. It's complicated and difficult to describe because there's so much going on.

As you already probably know , history is not as simple as what is taught in history books . There are often unmentioned reasons for the way things are in the present . Why for instance did partition of 1947 only created two states and not one for a sikh ? I think its because cunning gorey always knew that these brave race who wouldn't even hesitate to sit in front of a racing train just to feed their brethren (saka panja sahib) would be a threat to their own english kingdom itself in distant future if they're provided a political autonomy . 

[MisterrSingh]

5 hours ago, AjeetSingh2019 said:

As you already probably know , history is not as simple as what is taught in history books . There are often unmentioned reasons for the way things are in the present . Why for instance did partition of 1947 only created two states and not one for a sikh ? I think its because cunning gorey always knew that these brave race who wouldn't even hesitate to sit in front of a racing train just to feed their brethren (saka panja sahib) would be a threat to their own english kingdom itself in distant future if they're provided a political autonomy . 

That's where I'd disagree. That's pie in the sky thinking; a slight yet hopeful detachment from reality. You don't pose a threat to a world power, albeit one on the wane, based on the implicit promise of a group's religious scriptures. The answer to your question is simple: we were naive and not ruthless enough, maybe out of our depth, too. When Nehru and Gandhi were hob-nobbing with the English elite and marketing their independence movements with the Oxbridge brigade, where were our equivalents making the case for Sikh autonomy and our unique identity? That's your answer.