Panj Pyare perivious life

[Arsh1469]

I know there was a long debate about this here but this is just to answer the question so people don't have to look at long debates.

Bhai Daya Singh  -  Luv (Son of Ram)

Bhai Dharam Singh  -  Bhagat Dhanna 

Bhai Himmit Singh  -  Hunter from Satjug or the man who shot a arrow at Krishna

Bhai Mokham Singh  -  Bhagat Namdev

Bhai Sahib Singh  -  Bhagat Sain

I got this from Khalsa Mool Mantar, Prachin Panth Parkash and Katha from Sant Gurbachn Singh

[Guest]

Thank you for sharing this. Very interesting to know this. Infact Ramayan / Mahabharat are part of Sikh history. Dhruv, Prahlad etc. This is all our history. 
 

One mahapurakh even said that Sikhi is the panth of Raj Rishis. I dont know the name of that mahapurakh.
 

We are householder Yogis. 

However people on this forum will not accept anything Sikhi connected to what you said. People on this forum have a very deep personal political agenda, they will put labels & harrass Sikhs who do not agree with them. They want to alienate Sikhi from everything and make us look like fundamentalist. 
 

 

[Arsh1469]

3 hours ago, singhsince1981 said:

Thank you for sharing this. Very interesting to know this. Infact Ramayan / Mahabharat are part of Sikh history. Dhruv, Prahlad etc. This is all our history. 
 

One mahapurakh even said that Sikhi is the panth of Raj Rishis. I dont know the name of that mahapurakh.
 

We are householder Yogis. 

However people on this forum will not accept anything Sikhi connected to what you said. People on this forum have a very deep personal political agenda, they will put labels & harrass Sikhs who do not agree with them. They want to alienate Sikhi from everything and make us look like fundamentalist. 
 

 

I agree with everything you said except householder Yogis. More like householder Rishis.

For Sikhs who will like to know more about Ramayan or Mahabharata read Chabious avtar. More pacificaly Ram avtar and Krishna avtar.

Also Gobind Gita should be read.

All Sikhs should also read and study

Chanaka Raajneeti
Sarkutavali
Bhavrasamrit
Vichar Mala
Vairag Shatak
Parbodh Chandar Natak
Adhiatam Parkash
Birti Parbhakar
Vichar Sagar

I have just ordered Sarkuntavali English tika translated by Giani Kamalpreet Singh Ji.  Also about to read Vairag Shatak.

[Guest]

Thanks bro, I agree with the term Householder Rishi. Frankly I dont know the difference between Yogi & Rishi. Do know that Rishi is the person with long hair tied in a knot. 

[puzzled]

A few questions. 

So the bhagats didn't achieve mukti? and came back as the panj pyare and then got mukti ?

also, the panj pyare were South Asians (and men)  in their previous lives and then got reincarnated as South Asians again? 

what happens to Whites, Blacks, Chinese then etc ?    

[Arsh1469]

1 hour ago, puzzled said:

A few questions. 

So the bhagats didn't achieve mukti? and came back as the panj pyare and then got mukti ?

also, the panj pyare were South Asians (and men)  in their previous lives and then got reincarnated as South Asians again? 

what happens to Whites, Blacks, Chinese then etc ?    

No they were sent by Vahguru to return. They did achieve mukhti.

For 2 it is random but they were sent pacificaly so that is why.

[Guest]

2 hours ago, Arsh1469 said:

No they were sent by Vahguru to return. They did achieve mukhti.

For 2 it is random but they were sent pacificaly so that is why.

I agree with you Arsh1469. Brahmgyanis gat can only be known by brahmgyanis.

These kinds of question arise from a mind, that like to “think”, “analyse”, “logicalise” everything. Typical of westernized sikhs. Unfortunately thats not how things work. 

[MisterrSingh]

15 hours ago, puzzled said:

A few questions. 

So the bhagats didn't achieve mukti? and came back as the panj pyare and then got mukti ?

also, the panj pyare were South Asians (and men)  in their previous lives and then got reincarnated as South Asians again? 

what happens to Whites, Blacks, Chinese then etc ?    

What does a mans need to do in order to get mukhti?!!?

[Guest]

42 minutes ago, MisterrSingh said:

What does a mans need to do in order to get mukhti?!!?

god's grace. 

Karmia aave kapda, nadri mokh duaar (the body is obtained by past meritous karmas , but liberation comes from grace)

But to be worthy of getting god's grace is to try your level best in spiritual pursuit . 

like for eg : the kid trying to get on top of the platform can't do it himself no matter how much he tries , still he does try and his father encourages him too all the while well aware he can't do it himself. After a while, the father picks the kid up and safely puts him on the platform. The kid could have never done it by his own no matter how much he tried but if he didn't persist , his father wouldn't have put him on the platform either. 

[MisterrSingh]

1 hour ago, AjeetSingh2019 said:

god's grace. 

Karmia aave kapda, nadri mokh duaar (the body is obtained by past meritous karmas , but liberation comes from grace)

But to be worthy of getting god's grace is to try your level best in spiritual pursuit . 

like for eg : the kid trying to get on top of the platform can't do it himself no matter how much he tries , still he does try and his father encourages him too all the while well aware he can't do it himself. After a while, the father picks the kid up and safely puts him on the platform. The kid could have never done it by his own no matter how much he tried but if he didn't persist , his father wouldn't have put him on the platform either. 

From my experience the people who talk the most about mukhti will be ones who are least likely to attain it. Mukhti isn't the joke it's been made out to be by Sikhs. It takes thousands, dare I say millions of lifetimes to get there.  You have to earn it.  Yes, grace is a necessary component, but it's not fluke or luck.

A rapist who's made a career of his sins isn't going to be blessed with mukhti due to God deciding to bestow his grace upon him. The grace comes after (or IF) he's made a concerted effort to reform. Or it may not. Sikhs seem to think someone can go from being mired in evil 5hit one moment to sitting on God's right hand side with no conscious effort on the part of the soul. If that's the case then the karmic system doesn't exist, and we exist outside of the universal laws that dictate His creation that's existed for infinity.