Mohammed Ibrar - The UK Pakistani Muslim terrorist who attacked UK Derby Gurdwara charged with only hate crime

[superkaur]

Derby Sikh temple knifeman admits to stabbing and burglary charges

Mohammed Ibrar's offence was described as a 'hate crime'

 

 

 

Scene of an alleged stabbing in Normanton Road

 

A 32-year-old Derby man has admitted to breaking into a Normanton temple before stabbing a man in a shop in what police later confirmed was a hate crime.

Mohammed Ibrar pleaded guilty to assault occasioning grievous bodily harm with intent, possessing a knife and burglary when he appeared over videolink from HMP Nottingham for the 15-minute hearing at Derby Crown Court.

But he denied the more serious charge of attempted murder saying through a Hindi interprepeter “I did not want to kill him, I was not in a good mental state”.

Prosecutor Jonathan Cox said those pleas were acceptable, telling the court both a prosecution and defence psychiatrists had assessed Ibrar since he was remanded following the incident in May 2020.

Adjourning the sentence, Judge Jonathan Bennett said: “Mr Ibrar you have pleaded guilty to three of these offences and the prosecution are not going to proceed with the most serious charge of attempted murder.

“I am going to sentence you when I have heard both from the prosecution and your own barrister.

 

“On that date I will allow an hour-and-a-half and in the meantime you will be remanded into custody.

“Do you understand that?”

Ibrar, through the interpreter, replied: “Yes I do.”

Ibrar broke into the Guru Arjan Dev Sikh Gurdwara in Stanhope Street on the morning of Monday, May 25.

Another call came in minutes later to say that a man had been stabbed inside the Polanica shop, in nearby Normanton Road.

On arrival, officers found a 41-year-old man with injuries. The man was taken to the Queen’s Medical Centre for treatment and was later discharged.

In a statement released the following day, Chief Superintendent David Cox said: “I know this is a very upsetting incident not only because this is a place of worship but the alleged actions of the individual involved have a wider impact across the community.

“I am taking this incident very seriously and I have a team of detectives who are working through the full circumstances of what has taken place.

“As this investigation progresses I hope we will gain a clearer understanding of what happened.

“This was a challenging incident to respond to with multiple scenes and multiple calls for service within minutes. I would like to thank those members of the community who assisted the police yesterday.

“This is being treated as a hate crime.”

In the days following the incident, the Sikh and Muslim communities in Derby issued a statement of solidarity.

A post put up on the Derby Jamia Mosque Facebook page said both faiths “condemned the senseless acts without reservation”.

It read: “On Monday, May 25, 2020, Guru Arjan Dev Ji Gurdwara was attacked by an individual who caused extensive damage to the windows and doors.

“We, the undersigned representatives of the main Muslim and Sikh communities, condemn this senseless act without reservation.

“Desecration of places of worship is unacceptable and can never be justified nor condoned. The Muslim and Sikh communities have been living together in Derby in peace and harmony for many years.

“These types of senseless acts will not separate us. The actions of individuals do not represent our communities. “

The statement was signed by the Sri Guru Arjan Dev Ji Gurdwara; Derby Jamia Mosque; Sri Guru Singh Sabha Gurdwara; Islamic Centre; Al-Farooq Masjid; Guru Ravidass Gurdwara; Pakistan Community Centre; Ramgharia Sabha Gurdwara and the Indian Community Centre.

 

https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/news/derby-news/derby-sikh-temple-knifeman-admits-4935332

[Premi5]

21 hours ago, superkaur said:

Derby Sikh temple knifeman admits to stabbing and burglary charges

Mohammed Ibrar's offence was described as a 'hate crime'

 

UK is soft touch

@GurjantGnostic what would have been the penalty in the USA ?

[GurjantGnostic]

13 minutes ago, Premi5 said:

UK is soft touch

@GurjantGnostic what would have been the penalty in the USA ?

That's attempted murder, aggrevated battety or mayhem depending on injury and then compounded by a hate crime. 

That's multiple felonies state and federal. 

[superkaur]

This shows clear ignorance, racism and sikhphobia not just within the muslim community but also white british dominated institutions who do not understand this was a clear act of terrorism against a religious minority who have nothing to do what the indian government does in Kashmir. In fact majority of Sikhs support the rights of all the oppressed and victimised peoples in kashmir and other places.

The uk residing muslim attacker (from pakistan) was armed with a knife, he had political motives as he had written a note indicating he attacked and damaged the gurdwara because of what Modi's hindu nationalist govt's acquiring of kashmir within the indian union and what the indian army was doing in kashmir. The attacker also ended up stabbing some random white polish guy in a shop not too far from the derby gurdwara. So clearly he was out to cause serious harm and injury and luckily that day the gurdwara was closed cos of covid lockdown and there was no sangat there. Usually at that time of the day it would be open with mostly eldery worshippers coming in. It is clear he would have caused serious offences had it been a non-lockdown day.

At the time I remember British Sikhs were urging the derby police to investigate this as not a burglary incident but as a terrorism offence as all necessary indications of a political violence leanings was there but because of lazyness and lack of forceful lobbying by Sikh organizations along with institutional racism they put the crime investigation down as a minor burglary offence.

British Sikhs organizations and Sikh leaders/influential figures need to start bucking up their idea's if they don't want to be treated as and seen as a joke.

[GurjantGnostic]

20 minutes ago, superkaur said:

This shows clear ignorance, racism and sikhphobia not just within the muslim community but also white british dominated institutions who do not understand this was a clear act of terrorism against a religious minority who have nothing to do what the indian government does in Kashmir. In fact majority of Sikhs support the rights of all the oppressed and victimised peoples in kashmir and other places.

The uk residing muslim attacker (from pakistan) was armed with a knife, he had political motives as he had written a note indicating he attacked and damaged the gurdwara because of what Modi's hindu nationalist govt's acquiring of kashmir within the indian union and what the indian army was doing in kashmir. The attacker also ended up stabbing some random white polish guy in a shop not too far from the derby gurdwara. So clearly he was out to cause serious harm and injury and luckily that day the gurdwara was closed cos of covid lockdown and there was no sangat there. Usually at that time of the day it would be open with mostly eldery worshippers coming in. It is clear he would have caused serious offences had it been a non-lockdown day.

At the time I remember British Sikhs were urging the derby police to investigate this as not a burglary incident but as a terrorism offence as all necessary indications of a political violence leanings was there but because of lazyness and lack of forceful lobbying by Sikh organizations along with institutional racism they put the crime investigation down as a minor burglary offence.

British Sikhs organizations and Sikh leaders/influential figures need to start bucking up their idea's if they don't want to be treated as and seen as a joke.

Amen to everything you said about the british. 

In terms of Kashmir. 

Guru Tegh Bahadur Dev Ji. Shaheedi. 

Babba Deep Singh saves a multitude of women, some Kashmiri?

I know I'm ignorant enough to be leaving things out. 

[DSG]

These guys are very clever and know how to use and abuse the system. He used the "mental instability" tactic to get off lightly. 

Is there an appeal to the decision or have the parties involved accepted the decision? 

 

[Premi5]

10 minutes ago, DSG said:

These guys are very clever and know how to use and abuse the system. He used the "mental instability" tactic to get off lightly. 

Is there an appeal to the decision or have the parties involved accepted the decision? 

 

What if it had been other way around- would this have been bigger news?

[MisterrSingh]

It's unfortunate that Sikhs are portrayed as India's military "face" but we also seem to delight in this role that's been carved out for us by the Indians. This probably has some vague bearing on these types of issues in part. Perceptions on the part of external communities about our loyalties.

[ChardikalaUK]

1 hour ago, MisterrSingh said:

It's unfortunate that Sikhs are portrayed as India's military "face" but we also seem to delight in this role that's been carved out for us by the Indians. This probably has some vague bearing on these types of issues in part. Perceptions on the part of external communities about our loyalties.

We're seen as cannon fodder. As soon as we demand some rights we're labelled terrorists and separatists.

[dallysingh101]

16 hours ago, MisterrSingh said:

It's unfortunate that Sikhs are portrayed as India's military "face" but we also seem to delight in this role that's been carved out for us by the Indians. This probably has some vague bearing on these types of issues in part. Perceptions on the part of external communities about our loyalties.

No different to how many anglos see us, and something hordes of apnay play up to.  

 

15 hours ago, ChardikalaUK said:

We're seen as cannon fodder. As soon as we demand some rights we're labelled terrorists and separatists.

See above.