RSS Hindu Mentality, and what they're saying (Important to read)

[KhalistanYouth]

1 hour ago, AjeetSingh2019 said:

My Vedic friend says hinduism is a later imposition on india. He said modern day hinduism is based upon puranas and except lip service no hindu in India actually reveres vedas for what they're. He said Vedic god's like agni vayu Indra are not even worshipped anymore in India. Rather Indra which is highest god in vedas is treated almost villain like in puranas. He said Vishnu and Shiva cults ruined the Vedic religion. 

He also said Vedic religion doesn't believe in rebirth and theory of karma either. He is dead against notion of rebirths . Rather believes dead ones go to their ancestors  . 

Hinduism is a generalization, when you look into the hindu religion, there is a variety of beliefs, some of them worship other deities as their main gods, and so on forth, the vedic religion was vastly different back then, and even now there is closed practices where only people born into it can practice that certain form of hinduism, so yeah there is differing beliefs, also about Indra, basically Krishna came and exposed Indra to the people, I'm not sure exactly what but I think Indra was holding his power against them, and Krishna came and basically removed the need of Indra being worshipped by saying they already have what they needed or something, and Indra wanted to force the people to make them worship him I think with a threat? So Krishna stopped him and the peoples decided to worship Krishna instead, and some people actually still do worship Indra.

[KhalistanYouth]

1 hour ago, Arsh1469 said:

On the bottom part your friend is wrong as the Vedas do mention it. The Vedas are kind of like Sikhi as they say there is one god. Are all others are demi Gods. Mordern Hinduism is a bunch of religious as one. 

The Puranas put the focus more on other Demi Gods. The Puranas are not bad as he says they are more about Demi Gods. I don't think Durga/Chandi is mentioned in the Vedas. The Vedas were more about philosophy while the Puranas are stories and epics. Also Indra is not a person but a title given to a elected person. Atleast from what I have heard and Read.

Well, they believe that there are Avatars that represents different aspects of god, the main three also known as the Trimvurti is Brahma, Vishnu, and Shiva, and they have always existed I believe, and all these other gods are their avatars, or something along those lines, and there's something about Amrita and the nectar of immortality where the demons and devas wanted "immortality" I think it was mentioned in the puranas, I'm also not sure about where the goddesses came from.

[KhalistanYouth]

9 hours ago, imhosingh said:

I'm going to try and be impartial here. Did the RSS/BJP force Sikhs to turn to liquer, cut their hair etc? Up until the 90s they (the RSS and BJP) were under pressure by the Congress/centrists, who ran things. The Congress tried to attack them too. But unlike us, they maintained their unity and played the long game. I think if we had more unity and learnt from past mistakes we would be a more formidable force. They are nationalists ...we are nationalists...they are united ..we are not 

So where exactly are you getting "Sikhs cutting their hair and drinking liquor" from?

I haven't read up all the replies on this thread, but I haven't seen anyone say they're forcing us to drink... Instead I see us commenting about their propaganda, and how they want a repeat of 1984.

Sikhs were always united, they just abused our generosity and used it against us, like how all of our allies always ended up betraying us.

The RSS did get involved in the whole  Khalistan issue, and hijacking the entire movement into full-fledged terrorism but that's a whole different subject.

[KhalistanYouth]

On 2/9/2021 at 3:24 PM, MisterrSingh said:

To any brothers and sisters on Twitter who have the time to do so, screenshot every single genocide-and-rape threatening Tweet made by these BJP / RSS supporters, and compile them into one single image / document. In the middle, scaled slightly bigger than the other Tweets, place Kangana Ranaut's Tweet that encourages genocide and destruction of Sikhs.

When these people claim India has never been hostile towards Sikhs and that our claims of them attempting to wipe us out are fantasies, present this particular document that lays bare their true depraved and bloodthirsty cravings.

This is how you play the propaganda war. But be quick incase they delete their Tweets and claim innocence.

I agree, everyone please do this, we need to basically make 1 big post and make it available for other accounts to repost across social media platforms, so we can shed light on the truth.

[1ManArmy]

sounds like a great idea 

[Kau89r8]

 

[KulwinderM]

4 hours ago, Kau89r8 said:

 

This guy needs his skin ripped off. 
Dirty Gangus never quit.

[Ranjeet01]

Being a Hindu can mean anything and nothing.

They are not grounded in any principles, they don't stand for anything which implies that they don't really have any sense of morality. 

They have no foundation. They seem to be moral relativists. 

Amorality and apathy seems to reign supreme which means their values switch from one circumstance to another.

Which means that they have no loyalty to anything and can easily betray. They are like pro*titutes,  they can be bought. 

They only know how to survive not thrive. They are not fit to lead anything. 

They are a people who have been devolving and regressing for the last couple of thousand years. 

[KhalistanYouth]

More tactics they'll try to use.

 

1. Early Paintings of Guruji's had Tilaks on their forehead making them Hindu

Now what they fail to understand is that this practice was stopped by the 6th guru, and completely ended with the formation of the Khalsa in 1699, where we officially got our "guidelines" per say, and the five K's, they also fail to acknowledge that our Guru's literally denied being Hindu or Muslim... Which is why you can only find paintings of Nanak, and our first five Guru's with Tilak, now the funny thing is they'll use these paintings as fact but deny our primary sources for our historical events.... Hypocritical?  Also they seem to be very bipolar, some of them will deny us being Hindu and call us "plagarism" and said we have abandoned Dharma as soon as we stopped worshipping Hindu gods, and others will try to call us apart of Hinduism.

2. Hindu Gods/Goddess and Imagery

They will try to say that we believe in Hindu Gods, but they don't realize the fact that we don't see them as Gods, correct me if I'm wrong, but I read somewhere that it was said that once they started calling themselves "Gods" they grew in ego, and corrupted their mission? and that God can create thousands of Krishna's as tiny as ants, or something along those lines, stating that Krishna was basically insignificant to the actual creator (If you can find the exact quote, reply here.)  They also fail to realize that we believe in  Akal Purakh not those 33 million "gods" they have, and we don't Idol-worship either.

 

They may bring up the fact the Hindu goddess Durga was on the Sikh empire standard, however from what I read it can't be confirmed whether that flag was for a Hindu-regiment or for the entire empire, and having Durga on it doesn't mean you believe in Durga as your deity, many indians use them as a source of inspiration, similar to the Chand used by Nihangs which also has a different meaning to what these Hindu's who don't bother to do research may think.

 

They will bring up  "Sects" such as the Udasi or Bandai Sikhs.

They will then bring up Udasi or Bandai Sikhs but completely fails to understand why they have been cut off, (20th cent for Udasi's, and Bandai Sikhs which was after Banda Bahadur's death whom was loyal follower of Guruji himself, rejoined the Tat Khalsa in it's entirety leaving behind the many customs Banda had for his followers while he was alive, after his death is when they tried to make him the 11th guru and create "Bandai Khalsa" they will also call him a Hindu even though he took amrit alongside his wife, and accepted his new name, and even after his followers created their own sect you can say, they still had the name "Sikh" in it instead of "Bandai Hindus")

3. Guru Tegh Bahadur's Sacrfiice.

They will try to either call it a myth and ignore the many sources, or they'll say "He didn't save Hindu's, those were Kashmiri Pandits." You can probably understand by now that they're pretty slow.

 

4. "McSikhs, SPGC Singhs!"

If you literally counter their point with any historical fact, or source they will resort to calling you a fake McSikh that supports the SPGC, or they'll call you a Muslim lover.

 

5. They will deny any history that makes Hinduism looks weak or evil.

Hindus converting to Islam like cowards? Nope didn't happen.

Rajputs selling their daughters to persians? Nope.

Hindu's being invaded for basically like 500 years by muslim and arabs and turks? Nope.

Hindu's becoming slaves aka Indentured servants in the Carribbean by the British Raj? Nope.

Hindu's being seen as a lesser race instead of a martial race? Nope.

Hindu's oppressing other religions such as Islam and Sikhs in their many religious riots? Nope, they'll say that they haven't started it, which maybe true in some cases however that doesn't warrant for the entire nation to kill random muslim babies over 1 event in 1 state, committed by only a few people, it's okay though their logic is that if 1 person from that group commits something bad, it's okay to go out and kill everyone belonging to that community, including children that have no idea on whats going on.

 

6. KHALISTAN! 

You are a "Khalistan Terrorist" because you proved a RW Hindu wrong, congrats.

Maybe if they seen my username on this website they'd have a point, but it's clear they don't see us as equals so they shouldn't be so surprised  they created a division among Hindu and Sikhs especially between the Youth and to Sikhs outside of India,  try your best to "reason" with them and educate the truth, considering how effective their propaganda was to rally the RW hindus on the internet to villianzie our community, however remember.

"All modes of redressing the wrong having failed, raising of sword is pious and just"

If I made any mistakes, quote this and correct me because I wrote this in a rush.

[Ranjeet01]

7 minutes ago, KhalistanYouth said:

More tactics they'll try to use.

 

1. Early Paintings of Guruji's had Tilaks on their forehead making them Hindu

Now what they fail to understand is that this practice was stopped by the 6th guru, and completely ended with the formation of the Khalsa in 1699, where we officially got our "guidelines" per say, and the five K's, they also fail to acknowledge that our Guru's literally denied being Hindu or Muslim... Which is why you can only find paintings of Nanak, and our first five Guru's with Tilak, now the funny thing is they'll use these paintings as fact but deny our primary sources for our historical events.... Hypocritical?  Also they seem to be very bipolar, some of them will deny us being Hindu and call us "plagarism" and said we have abandoned Dharma as soon as we stopped worshipping Hindu gods, and others will try to call us apart of Hinduism.

2. Hindu Gods/Goddess and Imagery

They will try to say that we believe in Hindu Gods, but they don't realize the fact that we don't see them as Gods, correct me if I'm wrong, but I read somewhere that it was said that once they started calling themselves "Gods" they grew in ego, and corrupted their mission? and that God can create thousands of Krishna's as tiny as ants, or something along those lines, stating that Krishna was basically insignificant to the actual creator (If you can find the exact quote, reply here.)  They also fail to realize that we believe in  Akal Purakh not those 33 million "gods" they have, and we don't Idol-worship either.

 

They may bring up the fact the Hindu goddess Durga was on the Sikh empire standard, however from what I read it can't be confirmed whether that flag was for a Hindu-regiment or for the entire empire, and having Durga on it doesn't mean you believe in Durga as your deity, many indians use them as a source of inspiration, similar to the Chand used by Nihangs which also has a different meaning to what these Hindu's who don't bother to do research may think.

 

They will bring up  "Sects" such as the Udasi or Bandai Sikhs.

They will then bring up Udasi or Bandai Sikhs but completely fails to understand why they have been cut off, (20th cent for Udasi's, and Bandai Sikhs which was after Banda Bahadur's death whom was loyal follower of Guruji himself, rejoined the Tat Khalsa in it's entirety leaving behind the many customs Banda had for his followers while he was alive, after his death is when they tried to make him the 11th guru and create "Bandai Khalsa" they will also call him a Hindu even though he took amrit alongside his wife, and accepted his new name, and even after his followers created their own sect you can say, they still had the name "Sikh" in it instead of "Bandai Hindus")

3. Guru Tegh Bahadur's Sacrfiice.

They will try to either call it a myth and ignore the many sources, or they'll say "He didn't save Hindu's, those were Kashmiri Pandits." You can probably understand by now that they're pretty slow.

 

4. "McSikhs, SPGC Singhs!"

If you literally counter their point with any historical fact, or source they will resort to calling you a fake McSikh that supports the SPGC, or they'll call you a Muslim lover.

 

5. They will deny any history that makes Hinduism looks weak or evil.

Hindus converting to Islam like cowards? Nope didn't happen.

Rajputs selling their daughters to persians? Nope.

Hindu's being invaded for basically like 500 years by muslim and arabs and turks? Nope.

Hindu's becoming slaves aka Indentured servants in the Carribbean by the British Raj? Nope.

Hindu's being seen as a lesser race instead of a martial race? Nope.

Hindu's oppressing other religions such as Islam and Sikhs in their many religious riots? Nope, they'll say that they haven't started it, which maybe true in some cases however that doesn't warrant for the entire nation to kill random muslim babies over 1 event in 1 state, committed by only a few people, it's okay though their logic is that if 1 person from that group commits something bad, it's okay to go out and kill everyone belonging to that community, including children that have no idea on whats going on.

 

6. KHALISTAN! 

You are a "Khalistan Terrorist" because you proved a RW Hindu wrong, congrats.

 

If I made any mistakes, quote this and correct me because I wrote this in a rush.

It's because they are a 'pic n mix ' people.

They appropriate aspects of Sikhi they think will flatter them and discard other aspects which does not suit their purpose. 

They can love and hate something at the same time. They will hold you in high regard and then want to destroy you at the same time.

They are a lost people, directionless.