Understanding Sikhi through Gurbani

[Redoptics]

Can you lot grow up and watch the entire video, before jumping to conclusions.

I know Guru Granth Sahib Ji, is the truth and I also believe there is no sakhis within.

Now let's take Sidth Ghoste for example no story actually fact  history and wisdom.

Some people define the term  'stories' as made up and some define the term as historical events.

Both definitions are correct, I use 'stories' as made up.

There is one great book if you love stories.

It is known as 'The greatest story ever told'

Also don't resort to name calling even if you don't agree with someone, its childish.

[chatanga1]

16 minutes ago, Redoptics said:

Can you lot grow up and watch the entire video, before jumping to conclusions.

Don't need to watch the whole video to realise this daktar karminder phd boston is a stain on Gurmat.

 

16 minutes ago, Redoptics said:

I know Guru Granth Sahib Ji, is the truth and I also believe there is no sakhis within.

There are many mentions of sakhis in it. Not with a beginning, middle or end in the conventional sense but there are many sakhis which have some mention in Guru Granth Sahib. If you had read my post (lengthy as it is) then you would have seen for yourself that Bhai Sunder, writes the last days of Guru Sahib as if it were a sakhi.

 

16 minutes ago, Redoptics said:

Now let's take Sidth Ghoste for example no story actually fact  history and wisdom.

Then why would Guru Sahibuse the names of the Siddhs asking him questions and then responding to them, when Guru Sahib could just have written a shabad to explain evertthing.

 

16 minutes ago, Redoptics said:

Some people define the term  'stories' as made up and some define the term as historical events.

Only those with an agenda define stories as "made up." Historical events are not known as sakhis - they are known as itihaas. Sakhis are all about the Guru Sahibs and their teachings, and how those teachings actually came about.

 

17 minutes ago, Redoptics said:

Both definitions are correct, I use 'stories' as made up.

Great for you then. Tell us how and why Sikhs began to have "Singh/Kaur" in their names.

 

17 minutes ago, Redoptics said:

There is one great book if you love stories.

It is known as 'The greatest story ever told'

Seen the film.

 

17 minutes ago, Redoptics said:

Also don't resort to name calling even if you don't agree with someone, its childish.

Possibly, but enemies of Gurmat don't really deserve better.

 

[Arsh1469]

The guy is a missionary. I checked his website he is anti dasam bani.

[puzzled]

Was watching some of his videos, skimmed through this one. Missionary Sikhs always deny judgment after death, reincarnation, heaven and hell. This guy also denies judgment after death, reincarnation,  hell etc   missionary Sikhs often call all of this a "metaphor" 

They scrap everything, divine interventions, divinity, after life etc   They just get rid of everything. 

Do these people genuinely believe what they preach?  Or are there people using them to alter Sikhi ?   A lot of them seem to spend many years abroad in the west. Its like they view Sikhi from a very Western, atheist perspective. 

There's a lot of reformist Christian priests and reformist Jewish rabbis who deny an after life, missionary Sikhs seem to be following that. 

watch @21:00    

 

[intrigued]

ਸਲੋਕ ਮਃ ੩ ॥
Shalok, Third Mehla:

ਬਾਬਾਣੀਆ ਕਹਾਣੀਆ ਪੁਤ ਸਪੁਤ ਕਰੇਨਿ ॥
The stories of one's ancestors make the children good children.

ਜਿ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਭਾਵੈ ਸੁ ਮੰਨਿ ਲੈਨਿ ਸੇਈ ਕਰਮ ਕਰੇਨਿ ॥
They accept what is pleasing to the Will of the True Guru, and act accordingly.

ਜਾਇ ਪੁਛਹੁ ਸਿਮ੍ਰਿਤਿ ਸਾਸਤ ਬਿਆਸ ਸੁਕ ਨਾਰਦ ਬਚਨ ਸਭ ਸ੍ਰਿਸਟਿ ਕਰੇਨਿ ॥
Go and consult the Simritees, the Shaastras, the writings of Vyaas, Suk Dayv, Naarad, and all those who preach to the world.

ਸਚੈ ਲਾਏ ਸਚਿ ਲਗੇ ਸਦਾ ਸਚੁ ਸਮਾਲੇਨਿ ॥
Those, whom the True Lord attaches, are attached to the Truth; they contemplate the True Name forever.

ਨਾਨਕ ਆਏ ਸੇ ਪਰਵਾਣੁ ਭਏ ਜਿ ਸਗਲੇ ਕੁਲ ਤਾਰੇਨਿ ॥੧॥
O Nanak, their coming into the world is approved; they redeem all their ancestors. ||1||

[Arsh1469]

I never knew we had a missionary on this forum.

[GurjantGnostic]

36 minutes ago, Arsh1469 said:

I never knew we had a missionary on this forum.

@Redoptics Isn't a missionary. I think you're missing his point. 

Not speaking on behalf of source, but speaking to the point redoptics was trying to make. 

Use Gurbani to understand Gurbani. You can do that. 

[Arsh1469]

3 hours ago, GurjantGnostic said:

@Redoptics Isn't a missionary. I think you're missing his point. 

Not speaking on behalf of source, but speaking to the point redoptics was trying to make. 

Use Gurbani to understand Gurbani. You can do that. 

Ok

[ManpreetKaurr]

I was too interested in this topic, so I went and google about this guy. And look what I found.

[intrigued]

On 3/2/2021 at 4:33 AM, ManpreetKaurr said:

I was too interested in this topic, so I went and google about this guy. And look what I found.

Where is this article from?