Equality during Anand Karaj

[singhdalbir]

I just wanted to point out that person walking behind holding a palla control the person walking in front. just like how you can control an animal( horse).

If you don't like the current Anand karaj maryada than please go ahead and get a court marriage.

[MisterrSingh]

3 hours ago, singhdalbir said:

I just wanted to point out that person walking behind holding a palla control the person walking in front. just like how you can control an animal( horse).

Lmao, reverse psychology, good idea. Convince her the husband is a mule or livestock to be reined by the bride; a metaphor for marriage.

Debate over. Not only is Sikhi pro-female, the Sikh marriage ceremony demotes the groom to animal status. 

[Jai Tegang!]

38 minutes ago, MisterrSingh said:

Lmao, reverse psychology, good idea. Convince her the husband is a mule or livestock to be reined by the bride; a metaphor for marriage.

Debate over. Not only is Sikhi pro-female, the Sikh marriage ceremony demotes the groom to animal status. 

I still like koi's argument about orbital distance. Infact, the outer partner will have to increase speed while covering a larger distance to maintain equal timing upon arrival at the starting point. 

[Guest Mr Lynx]

Lol what an insane topic!!!

Tbh I think if it was a choice she'd be walking in front and her husband behind her wearing the churiyah cause we can all see what's going to happen to the poor guy during this union.

I'm in disbelief at the stupidity of some of our younger generation!

Shes been given some great advice here let's hope she takes it onboard and leaves her ego behind.

[singhdalbir]

20 hours ago, Jai Tegang! said:

I still like koi's argument about orbital distance. Infact, the outer partner will have to increase speed while covering a larger distance to maintain equal timing upon arrival at the starting point. 

True that person on the outside will have to walk faster.

[Sikhi4Ever]

On 3/3/2021 at 2:07 PM, Guest guest said:

i'm a firm traditionalist and a male.  however even i would find this explanation demeaning if i wear a woman.  

Would be interesting to see what are your "Firm Traditionalist" views. Now don't do ghosting traditionalist male ji. 

[puzzled]

On 3/3/2021 at 10:07 PM, Guest guest said:

i'm a firm traditionalist and a male.  however even i would find this explanation demeaning if i wear a woman.  

Your aren't a woman though, and if women don't like it then its their problem. 

Like I said, in bani Guru ji describes himself as a Sodhi, his fathers clan. He then describes the genealogy of the Sodhi clan. He doesn't mention his mothers family or genealogy. 

Bani mentions Guru Nanak Dev ji as a member of the Bedi clan, his mothers lineage or clan is not mentioned. Same with Guru Amar Das ji and its the same with Guru Ramdas Ji. 

We as Sikhs then should follow suit and use the same family structure and order. I don't understand what is so difficult about that? That is why its the bride that gets married into the grooms family. That is why Guru Gobind Singh ji said that marry your daughter into a family where Sikhi is practiced.

You can't make it any clearer than that. 

If women have a problem with that then it is their problem. The doors are flung open, no one is telling them to have Anand Karaj or be Sikhs. 

[MisterrSingh]

45 minutes ago, puzzled said:

The doors are flung open, no one is telling them to have Anand Karaj or be Sikhs. 

Unlike our dear, beloved Muslim brothers, we aren't going to murder our own for making their own way in life even if that direction is contrary to Sikh norms. Live and let live.

[puzzled]

8 minutes ago, MisterrSingh said:

Unlike our dear, beloved Muslim brothers, we aren't going to murder our own for making their own way in life even if that direction is contrary to Sikh norms. Live and let live.

Absolutely, no one is required to follow Sikhi if they don't want to. They are free to exit and find their own path, its probably for the best actually! 

[Guest Purataan Sikh]

Now, I have heard a lot of people object to your stance by telling you that it is just "tradition" but not many have explained why and that is the problem in the Panth, we have gone away from the tradition so much we forgot the orginal practices of Sikhi. Gurbani, Rehitnamay and history all clearly agree that the Man is the head of the family and should be considered as "Pati-Parmeshar (Husband as God). Since the Man is the head, then there is no way that he should be lead by the wife, especially during the Laavan. This would indicate that the women is the leader of the relationship. This is weather you want to believe in it or not, the reality, If women started serving their husbands as such then we would have many more Chardi Kala Singhniaan in the Panth. This doesn't mean that the Women is lower, or cant achieve the same spiritual level as a Man, but their Dharam in the household is different than that of the man. Men too have to start acting as such as they too have been feminized to think they need to bow down to their wives.