Friend having relationship problem!

[Redoptics]

22 minutes ago, Shaheed4life said:

Veerji i think he is talking about the friend(amritdhari) who has a father in law (probably not amritdhari ) who is saying this.

Whoever stop disrespecting our Guru ji

[Shaheed4life]

1 hour ago, Redoptics said:

Whoever stop disrespecting our Guru ji

True.Dasam Granth Bani is so amazing and it is also part of our nitnem.Really hope more people understand Dasam Granth Bani more.

[Redoptics]

38 minutes ago, Shaheed4life said:

True.Dasam Granth Bani is so amazing and it is also part of our nitnem.Really hope more people understand Dasam Granth Bani more.

Just because Guru Gobind Singh Ji, didn't put his own bani in Guru Granth Sahib Ji,  doesn't mrsn it isn't the same all our Gurus are the same johth(i think I spelt it wrong) same soul different body

[Shaheed4life]

3 hours ago, Redoptics said:

Just because Guru Gobind Singh Ji, didn't put his own bani in Guru Granth Sahib Ji,  doesn't mrsn it isn't the same all our Gurus are the same johth(i think I spelt it wrong) same soul different body

Exactly

[shastarSingh]

11 hours ago, Shaheed4life said:

Veerji i think he is talking about the friend(amritdhari) who has a father in law (probably not amritdhari ) who is saying this.

Father in law of my friend wears 5 kakkaar but says that amrit and khande di pahul r 2 different things.

He is a fuddu missionary who thinks that no one can defeat him in debate.

He is against dasam granth, ardaas and sarbloh rehit.

[intrigued]

How can he believe in amrit but not Dasam bani? To my knowledge, the contemporary sources that talk about Amrit also mention Dasam bani. Ask him to give a puratan source that doesn't have that...

[shastarSingh]

5 minutes ago, intrigued said:

How can he believe in amrit but not Dasam bani? To my knowledge, the contemporary sources that talk about Amrit also mention Dasam bani. Ask him to give a puratan source that doesn't have that...

Veerji

He says that khande di pahul is NOT amrit.

He says one doesn't hv to go to punj Pyare to get amrit.

He wears 5 kakkaar to befool people.

He is an arrogant snake.

[intrigued]

Sounds to me like he follows Kala Afghana and the like

[Suchi]

11 hours ago, intrigued said:

Sounds to me like he follows Kala Afghana and the like

Exactly. Serious attempts to sever its roots from Sanathan Dharma entirely. Not believing in Reincarnation means its a non Dharmic ideology believing only in materialism thus no real spirituality, sending devotees to Nothingness as described by Communists. So they are real soul destroyers and dangerous.  

https://gurvichar.com/2019/11/02/australia-and-new-zealand-beware-the-kala-afghana-brigade-onslaught-from-malaysian-nindaks-part-1-how-it-all-started/

Perhaps he can clarify whom he follows and what he practices to escape the karmic cycle. 

[Not2Cool2Argue]

9 hours ago, shastarSingh said:

Father in law of my friend wears 5 kakkaar but says that amrit and khande di pahul r 2 different things.

He is a fuddu missionary who thinks that no one can defeat him in debate.

He is against dasam granth, ardaas and sarbloh rehit.

I bet the saura/FIL was quiet before marriage because his wife and daughter made him. I can just imagine it:

The MIL "dont start foolish arguments, let the girl be married off first, with your incessant talking and debates, you have alienated all of our neighbors and friends. Stay quiet and dont ruin the girls life!"

I am terribly sorry to say theres only 2 ways two deal with these type of people. Be extra strict or humble. 

1. The amritdhari person can just say I have taken amrit and vows to the panj pyare and I intend to live by them. I just do what my guru says and am too dumb to engage in debate with smart ppl like you. I dont intend to be a debator or scholar, so please leave me alone. I just want the happiness of my guru. Anytime, the FIL tries to start a debate, just say you are probably right and  i am not smart enough to debate and walk away. 

2. Your amritdhari friend is a jija, a son in law. Tell him to use the power that position gives him. He is not a bahu to quietly take what the sass says. The father in law is interfering in his household and needs to be shown his place. The singh should say, i am an amritdhari and you knew this when you married ur daughter into this house. Either you and your daughter comply with my rehits and rules or you guys leave. For the guru, I am willing to destroy my marriage.  (If feels that is too harsh, he can add, I am not a tyrant, you can believe and do what you want. ) But there will be no guru nindya in my house.

Your friend is the jawai/SIL. Tell him dont be afraid to make some threats and act tough. Inlaws should be wary of the SIL. 

This may not seem like  the best thing to do for family relations,  but people like these actually respect power and tyranny only. The more kind and soft spoken you are, they will ride roughshod over you.

You can read about a similar incident here:  https://www.gurmatbibek.com/contents.php?id=21