Should we still use the Khanda Symbol?

[MisterrSingh]

On 3/18/2021 at 3:24 PM, Ranjeet01 said:

The modern Khanda as we see it today was influenced by the Brits.

It is put together in a similar way you see the goreh put their coat of arms. 

The traditional way was separate. I think the poster Not2Cool2Argue has it on his moniker.

I wouldn't mind a return to the classic insignia prior to the British. But from a design perspective the puritan one is a bit all over the place. There's no symmetery or purpose to its appearance. It's a few scattered objects on a flag. The modern one is immediately recognisable, and its various constituent parts fit together symbolically and literally. YET, i think there's a charm to the old-school one. It's nice, lol.

[Ranjeet01]

19 minutes ago, MisterrSingh said:

I wouldn't mind a return to the classic insignia prior to the British. But from a design perspective the puritan one is a bit all over the place. There's no symmetery or purpose to its appearance. It's a few scattered objects on a flag. The modern one is immediately recognisable, and its various constituent parts fit together symbolically and literally. YET, i think there's a charm to the old-school one. It's nice, lol.

One of the peculiar things about some of these British influences is how they try to tidy things up in their perspective. 

It's like one of those busy body women types who move the furniture around and rummage through your kitchen nicking your silver and also moving cups and bowls in the wrong cupboards. 

[MisterrSingh]

12 minutes ago, Ranjeet01 said:

One of the peculiar things about some of these British influences is how they try to tidy things up in their perspective. 

Categorisation and organisation. 

[Ranjeet01]

54 minutes ago, MisterrSingh said:

Categorisation and organisation. 

Yes that is what they do.

I'm surprised that they didn't try to organise SGGS ji in alphabetical order. 

If the Brits had it their way they would have tried to move Dashmesh Pita as the ninth guru, move Guru Tegh Bahadur Ji as the eighth guru and Guru HarKrishan as the 10th guru.

[MisterrSingh]

58 minutes ago, Ranjeet01 said:

Yes that is what they do.

I'm surprised that they didn't try to organise SGGS ji in alphabetical order. 

If the Brits had it their way they would have tried to move Dashmesh Pita as the ninth guru, move Guru Tegh Bahadur Ji as the eighth guru and Guru HarKrishan as the 10th guru.

Had the religion originated in ancient or mythical times instead of what was their contemporary era they might well have tried it.

[jassa]

Sikh flags color and symbol were different in different regions. The current symbol is modified version of symbol more common in Patiala reyasats during Raja Amar Singhs time and was adopted after Singh Sabha movement. There was no one symbol or color of nishan sahib before the current khanda. White color was common in Ludhiana Pothohar sindh and areas around and in afganistan blue and yellow color was common in majha todays amritsar lahore sailkot etc and red and orange was common in malwa and hill areas of punjab among sikh population.

The Nishan Sahib which Guru Gobind Singh ji send with banda bahadur to punjab is just blue color with no symbol. The color used by Banda Bahadur when he setup kingdom was plain red and Nishan Sahib wich Maharaja Ranjeet Singh sent from Punjab to Hazur Sahib when sewa of hazur sahib started was red with green border and symbol of sun.

In short the oldest preserved nishan sahib has no nishan and is blue is color

[intrigued]

5 hours ago, jassa said:

Sikh flags color and symbol were different in different regions. The current symbol is modified version of symbol more common in Patiala reyasats during Raja Amar Singhs time and was adopted after Singh Sabha movement. There was no one symbol or color of nishan sahib before the current khanda. White color was common in Ludhiana Pothohar sindh and areas around and in afganistan blue and yellow color was common in majha todays amritsar lahore sailkot etc and red and orange was common in malwa and hill areas of punjab among sikh population.

The Nishan Sahib which Guru Gobind Singh ji send with banda bahadur to punjab is just blue color with no symbol. The color used by Banda Bahadur when he setup kingdom was plain red and Nishan Sahib wich Maharaja Ranjeet Singh sent from Punjab to Hazur Sahib when sewa of hazur sahib started was red with green border and symbol of sun.

In short the oldest preserved nishan sahib has no nishan and is blue is color

I think one of the good things that the khanda did, was make a uniform symbol for Sikhi, in all aspects...If we ever decide to change to a different symbol, it should be constant throughout the panth as well

[Redoptics]

4 hours ago, intrigued said:

I think one of the good things that the khanda did, was make a uniform symbol for Sikhi, in all aspects...If we ever decide to change to a different symbol, it should be constant throughout the panth as well

Its also used as emblem,  people change their car emblem to a khanda

[intrigued]

What if we just switched to an Ik Ongkar? It's already well established and defined and is consistent enough in the panth. In many cases, it is also identified as a common Sikh symbol and often is alternatively used with the Khanda symbol we have today.

[Redoptics]

6 hours ago, intrigued said:

What if we just switched to an Ik Ongkar? It's already well established and defined and is consistent enough in the panth. In many cases, it is also identified as a common Sikh symbol and often is alternatively used with the Khanda symbol we have today.

Don't think I like the idea of ik onkar , as a car badge etc,  which will happen.