Krodh

[Ranjeet01]

I never posted on the Gurbani section.

But I am going try something, if nobody wants to contribute that is OK.

One of the aims of Gurbani is not only to connect yourself to Waheguru but it should be how you apply it in your day to day living. 

People have a lot of mental issues these days and I think that Gurbani can help a lot of people to get themselves straightened out.

I wanted to focus on how you have handled Krodh and how Maharaj has helped in this regard.

What's part of Bani has helped with this vice and how Gurbani has been applied.

[Ranjeet01]

Conventional Sikhi interprets to resolve Krodh you need more Sukh (at least how I have interpreted, I could be wrong).

Which is why Sukhmani Sahib path is very popular amongst the Sangat.

Krodh seems to be associated with turbulence and instability. 

But has anyone actually looked at the causes of Krodh and it's part in the human condition?

It like a lot of the other 'chors ' has a function in the human psyche but it should not control you, it is something that needs to be tamed and mastered. 

In my personal experience the solution to Krodh is not Sukh. Sukh is the after-effect.

It is actually dukh. A lot source of anger is pain.

[puzzled]

Yeah I think for many people behind all that anger and hate is some pain and bad experiences.

A lot of people with an unstable childhood end up with a lot of anger built up.

Personally speaking I'm not someone who has much anger/krodh, I'm quite the opposite actually. 

Different people "process" pain differently. 

But I think it comes down to personality aswell, some people are just angry people! It's not necessarily the result of pain and hurt. 

Anger is probably the most damaging of the 5 chor, it spreads hate and destroys many people.

People who join hate groups normally have a lot of anger and hate, the group then becomes like a space where they can vent all that anger. 

Yeah, we as a community don't talk much about krodh or the complexity. 

[Premi5]

Greater self-awareness and being 'in the moment' can help one cut down on anger and control emotions better

[GurjantGnostic]

 

 

[Ranjeet01]

Krodh is a very peculiar vikaar. 

Me personally, my Krodh can be directed towards Maharaj because I sometimes feel there is great injustice in the world and I sometimes feel that the least deserving get the best outcomes and the best people get the worst outcomes.

And I do ask Maharaj, "Why the great paradox? "

In life, I understand there are obstacles and struggles and they must be overcome.

Otherwise if life was smooth sailing, there would no point in being here. We have a part to play.

I have had to change my perspective on the way I look at things. This has only happened with the Guru's grace. 

As humans, we are very limited in our view of the world and the universe, in it's workings. It's like we have small fragment of a map and we have navigate across in this journey. If we are on a ship, we navigate  across the ocean, Maharaj's jot is like a Lighthouse to guide us. 

We only see certain things, there is so much we do not and we are ignorant to many things. 

My ego has to submit to Maharaj's hukam. Because I cannot see the bigger picture. And when I do see some the bigger picture then I realise what a blithering murakh that I am.

That is why brahmgianis are so humble. 

[Ranjeet01]

This is an example of Krodh from Lieutenant Dan in Forrest Gump. He was a fauji and he wanted shaheedi like his father and grand father but he lived but lost his legs in the Vietnam war and he was angry with Maharaj.

He was in a storm and his anger came out:

 

But he had to submit to Maharaj's hukam and he found Sukh:

 

[Premi5]

@puzzled @Ranjeet01

Outside of Gurbani, have you read about krodh/anger from a western, Psychological perspective ?

[Ranjeet01]

1 hour ago, Premi5 said:

@puzzled @Ranjeet01

Outside of Gurbani, have you read about krodh/anger from a western, Psychological perspective ?

I read a lot of stuff from a western psychological perspective.

It's what makes me value and appreciate gurbani even more.

Bani is so far ahead, modern science is trying to catch up.

[Ranjeet01]

Modern Science talks about emotional stress and how it impacts the nervous system. 

You have sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous systems.

Anger/Krodh is an emotional stress that maybe has a short term function but can cause health problems if it is prolonged. 

Now psychologists talk about meditation as an aid to calm your nervous system and to help manage stress?

What do you think Gurbani does? What does naam simran do?

It helps to calm your nervous system, it helps to manage stress.

Gurbani not only helps you spiritually but also mentally and physically too.

We've only begun to scratch the surface.