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14 minutes ago, shastarSingh said:

They are leaving the parkash of Guru Granth Sahib slowly in their deras too.

 

Even since my younger years, I didnt think of udasis much 

I just knew they were excommunicated and that baba Sri chand was egotistic and anti sikh at first back when I was little but looks like they weren't like that 

They are right now the most diluted sampardayi right now, I don't even have hope for them unlike the nirmalas 

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On 5/6/2021 at 12:32 PM, puzzled said:

 Yeah that's the one. I've seen it in peoples houses in india, I used to think it was Baba Balak Nath, but then I found out its to do with Guru Nanak Dev jis sons.

Do Sikhs believe in that sakhi ?  or is it sects that follow Baba Shri Chand ji ?

I wonder if the animals in the painting are of importance? reminds of of Pir Bhudan shah 

 

Thanks. 

My nanimaa told me about this saki when I was young

So I guess mainstream sikhs believe in it (although mainstream sikhs belie bc e in a lot of stuff lol) 

Personally, I am a bit apprehensive of the sikhi, even if it were true it doesnt pose much importance to gurmat or sikhi in general in my neech opinion 

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45 minutes ago, NaamTiharoJoJape said:

ust knew they were excommunicated and that baba Sri chand was egotistic and anti sikh at first back when I was little but looks like they weren't like that 

Baba Sri Chand ji just made 1 mistake in his life. We Sikhs make hundreds of mistakes.

He became a brahmgyani gursikh.He did parchar of gurmat only and his 4 compositions prove he was a true sikh.

Udasis were a good samparda and their deterioration or hinduization started from around 1820's.

There is no hukamname of Guru Sahib or no rehitnama of 18th century which forbids sikhs to associate with udasis.

We hv hukamname and rehitmamas which forbid us to associate with meenaas, ram raiye, dhir malliye and masands.

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21 minutes ago, shastarSingh said:

Baba Sri Chand ji just made 1 mistake in his life. We Sikhs make hundreds of mistakes.

He became a brahmgyani gursikh.He did parchar of gurmat only and his 4 compositions prove he was a true sikh.

Udasis were a good samparda and their deterioration or hinduization started from around 1820's.

There is no hukamname of Guru Sahib or no rehitnama of 18th century which forbids sikhs to associate with udasis.

We hv hukamname and rehitmamas which forbid us to associate with meenaas, ram raiye, dhir malliye and masands.

Yeah I'm saying that was when I was young

I think baba ji reconciled with rest of panth during gurgaddi of guru raam das ji maharaj when he realized why 

These four were inheritors of gurgaddi as he witnessed guru raam das jis humility 

He was given 700 rupees as bhentaa by guru sahib when he got to amritsar (I think it was amritsar guru ki nagari) and they had a discourse 

Baba ji knew guru raam das ji possessed immense brahm gian but wanted to test them, so he asked why he kept such a long beard to which guru sahib replied to dust off babaji feet and as he was about to receive his feet, babaji picked him up and embraced guru sahib (maybe in tears if I remember correctly) 

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17 minutes ago, NaamTiharoJoJape said:

Yeah I'm saying that was when I was young

I think baba ji reconciled with rest of panth during gurgaddi of guru raam das ji maharaj when he realized why 

These four were inheritors of gurgaddi as he witnessed guru raam das jis humility 

He was given 700 rupees as bhentaa by guru sahib when he got to amritsar (I think it was amritsar guru ki nagari) and they had a discourse 

Baba ji knew guru raam das ji possessed immense brahm gian but wanted to test them, so he asked why he kept such a long beard to which guru sahib replied to dust off babaji feet and as he was about to receive his feet, babaji picked him up and embraced guru sahib (maybe in tears if I remember correctly) 

Guru Amar daas ji gave His son Mohan to baba Sri chand ji too.

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13 minutes ago, shastarSingh said:

Guru Amar daas ji gave His son Mohan to baba Sri chand ji too.

It was guru hargobind sahib ji who gave bhai gurditta ji I think

I'm pretty sure baba Sri chand did not continue relations with 2nd or 3rd paatshahis unless I'm mistaken 

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On 5/18/2021 at 4:33 PM, NaamTiharoJoJape said:

I'm pretty sure baba Sri chand did not continue relations with 2nd or 3rd paatshahis unless I'm mistaken 

Yea that's what I've learned as well

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5 minutes ago, intrigued said:

Yea that's what I've learned as well

yeeah and baba mohan is more infamous for the "baba mohan valian pothian" (sometimes called goindvaal wali pothi") sakhi where he refused to give up the historic pothi during sewa of adi granth prakash was going on under agvaahi of guru arjan dev sahib paatshah 

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