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During COVID, we all saw how various Sikhs and Sikh NGOs came forward to help people of all religions,castes,etc as its our belief to do so. Delhi gurudwara donated gold and silvers worth crores to build hospital and recently inaugurated free hundred bed dialysis center. Good. Very Good. 

But where all these charity goes when sikhs in punjab themselves are suffering due to daily farmers suicides, families destroyed due to fake encounters, drugs, poor employment opportunities, immigration,etc.

When we are in trouble, nobody comes to help. Not even our own and nor the ones whom we helped. Normal educated people dont even want to discuss the solutions of these problems.  Ofcourse, we have Khalsa Aid, but it can only contribute an iota of whats required.

Its like our own house is on fire but we are rushing to see if our neighbors need any help.

Our leaders were all puppets who worked at behest of our enemies. Even they cheated us. 

Are Sikhs addicted to appeasing "others" at their own cost.

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On 6/4/2021 at 11:11 AM, Guest amar said:

During COVID, we all saw how various Sikhs and Sikh NGOs came forward to help people of all religions,castes,etc as its our belief to do so. Delhi gurudwara donated gold and silvers worth crores to build hospital and recently inaugurated free hundred bed dialysis center. Good. Very Good. 

But where all these charity goes when sikhs in punjab themselves are suffering due to daily farmers suicides, families destroyed due to fake encounters, drugs, poor employment opportunities, immigration,etc.

When we are in trouble, nobody comes to help. Not even our own and nor the ones whom we helped. Normal educated people dont even want to discuss the solutions of these problems.  Ofcourse, we have Khalsa Aid, but it can only contribute an iota of whats required.

Its like our own house is on fire but we are rushing to see if our neighbors need any help.

Our leaders were all puppets who worked at behest of our enemies. Even they cheated us. 

Are Sikhs addicted to appeasing "others" at their own cost.

When Sikhs do these chartiable acts like you mentioned. Its good for the Sikh image. Many people are drawn to the Sikh religion buy these generous acts. Sikhs should always be ready to help everyone. This is actually a way of doing parchaar.

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On 6/4/2021 at 11:11 AM, Guest amar said:

During COVID, we all saw how various Sikhs and Sikh NGOs came forward to help people of all religions,castes,etc as its our belief to do so. Delhi gurudwara donated gold and silvers worth crores to build hospital and recently inaugurated free hundred bed dialysis center. Good. Very Good. 

But where all these charity goes when sikhs in punjab themselves are suffering due to daily farmers suicides, families destroyed due to fake encounters, drugs, poor employment opportunities, immigration,etc.

When we are in trouble, nobody comes to help. Not even our own and nor the ones whom we helped. Normal educated people dont even want to discuss the solutions of these problems.  Ofcourse, we have Khalsa Aid, but it can only contribute an iota of whats required.

Its like our own house is on fire but we are rushing to see if our neighbors need any help.

Our leaders were all puppets who worked at behest of our enemies. Even they cheated us. 

Are Sikhs addicted to appeasing "others" at their own cost.

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you say "we", but what have you personally done to help those causes?  there's a saying in English that if you are not part of the solution you are a part of the problem.  why do so many sikhs like to criticise others lack of action?  why don't you do something to help them?  you want someone else to do all the work while you complain.

sikh groups do setup schools, medical help etc in punjab.  helping with medical things is straightforward, but the issues you mention are more complex.

for example, what is causing farmers suicides, drugs, poor employment?  its not like an illness where we can just pay for medicine, is it?

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On 6/10/2021 at 9:32 PM, Big_Tera said:

When Sikhs do these chartiable acts like you mentioned. Its good for the Sikh image. Many people are drawn to the Sikh religion buy these generous acts. Sikhs should always be ready to help everyone. This is actually a way of doing parchaar.

what did this disgusting missionary mentality come from?

helping the needy is not "parchaar".  its not mean to give "good image" or "draw people to the sikh religion".

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On 6/11/2021 at 5:06 PM, Guest guest said:

what did this disgusting missionary mentality come from?

helping the needy is not "parchaar".  its not mean to give "good image" or "draw people to the sikh religion".

I agree. Sewa is not being done for gain of something. It is selfless service

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On 6/11/2021 at 9:59 PM, Guest guest said:

for example, what is causing farmers suicides, drugs, poor employment?  its not like an illness where we can just pay for medicine, is it?

It's because at our political apex we have retards who don't even have a basic understanding of economics (or probably just don't care as long as they and their cronies are okay); who are incapable of developing Panjab's economy for the wider prosperity of all. Instead we are stuck in some outdated, feudal style rural nightmare. These are the consequences. It's self inflicted.

That's why despite M. Ranjit Singh's flaws, I respect him, he understood that and made the Sikh raj something most of the inhabitants felt happy about. Compare that to the 'leader' Panjabis continually vote in these days.....  

 

2 hours ago, intrigued said:

I agree. Sewa is not being done for gain of something. It is selfless service

Protecting and developing the panth is great sewa. We didn't grow and develop as a panth without it. Our own Guru's set the precedents. They developed economies, towns, villages, forts, patronised literacy and literature. Sacrificed themselves and their families and beloved Sikhs for it. Encouraged casteless cooperation amongst Sikhs. In short, uplifted us in all dimensions. When we are on a downward slide, we need to check that and reverse it. 

  

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14 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

Protecting and developing the panth is great sewa. We didn't grow and develop as a panth without it. Our own Guru's set the precedents. They developed economies, towns, villages, forts, patronised literacy and literature. Sacrificed themselves and their families and beloved Sikhs for it. Encouraged casteless cooperation amongst Sikhs. In short, uplifted us in all dimensions. When we are on a downward slide, we need to check that and reverse it. 

I agree with this. My point above was that seva shouldn't be done in the intent to convert

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