Are Sikhs addicted to appeasing "others" at their own cost

[Guest guest]

On 6/27/2021 at 5:52 PM, Suchi said:

All well in theory, but what about this:

 

what about it?  how is this relevant?

theres muslims human rights groups who try and help these women.  sorry to say that it seems in alot of cases the women weren't 'forced' but converted willingly, but the family are in denial.

[dallysingh101]

On 7/2/2021 at 3:44 PM, Guest guest said:

what about it?  how is this relevant?

theres muslims human rights groups who try and help these women.  sorry to say that it seems in alot of cases the women weren't 'forced' but converted willingly, but the family are in denial.

'Groomed' is a word you should be familiar with. 

[GurjantGnostic]

On 7/2/2021 at 7:44 AM, Guest guest said:

what about it?  how is this relevant?

theres muslims human rights groups who try and help these women.  sorry to say that it seems in alot of cases the women weren't 'forced' but converted willingly, but the family are in denial.

Unfortunately thousands of cases by force make it hard to tell the difference. 

[Singh1989]

From personal experience, a big fat yes yes. 

What happened to first sort yourself out THEN sort the world out second??? Gone to hell that's what's happened to it. 

[Guest Yes]

Waheguru Ji Ki Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

We should remember Wand Ke Chakna and Sarbat Da Bhalla.

[GurjantGnostic]

On 7/13/2021 at 1:21 PM, Guest Yes said:

Waheguru Ji Ki Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

We should remember Wand Ke Chakna and Sarbat Da Bhalla.

Welcome friend.  Treat yourself to a free account and stay a while. 

This circular energy comes up a lot Hanji.

Sikhs need to help other Sikhs and Everyone else, and the Paanth just doesn't agree how much to push each pedal. The pedal labeled Sikhs definitely needs to be pressed harder, I personally don't think it means we should stop pressing the Everyone pedal. More like keep stomping down on both those things. 

And in fact worry more about which way the car is facing, if we brought water and whether we remembered to lock the doors or not. 

[Kau89r8]

Thoughts?...

 

[GurjantGnostic]

1 hour ago, Kau89r8 said:

Thoughts?...

 

Ahh the beast of Daswand and Daan, which is which, and which to do. 

Both. Always. 

In the order of Daswand. Then Daan. Just like you put on your oxygen mask then your own childs sitting next to you. You don't question which. Nobody respects you if you only do either one. 

But if you confuse Daswand and Daan and use their funds for each other that is not right either. 

[jkvlondon]

On 7/13/2021 at 9:21 PM, Guest Yes said:

Waheguru Ji Ki Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

We should remember Wand Ke Chakna and Sarbat Da Bhalla.

but not by cutting the throats of our own poor widows, children and farmers , they are meant to be supported first to ensure the next generation will be stronger position to tackle life's hardships and they can improve the kaum as a whole by being educated , scholars , aware of gurbani and its meaning. All the hindu charities collect and give to their own, same, Christians, Jews and Muslims , because they know to support their own first because no one else will ...until Jokers in sikhi bhes  started to promote themselves by laying out the daswand given by poor sikhs for nonsikh activities or support. If you support the mazhabs who actively want your panth to end what would you call that? idiocy comes to mind, suicidal , uneducated and lacking in foresight. Singh Sabha movement used daswand to do parchaar in villages and to root out anglican missionaries' influence , they used it for creating sikh scholarly books on itihaas, gurbani etc.

Daan is seperate from Daswand , daswand is purely for sikh activities so nobody should be using it for building mosques , churches or temples. However outside of the expected daswand which belongs to the Guru , we can give daan but there is no restrictions on it because this is individual

[jkvlondon]

25 minutes ago, jkvlondon said:

but not by cutting the throats of our own poor widows, children and farmers , they are meant to be supported first to ensure the next generation will be stronger position to tackle life's hardships and they can improve the kaum as a whole by being educated , scholars , aware of gurbani and its meaning. All the hindu charities collect and give to their own, same, Christians, Jews and Muslims , because they know to support their own first because no one else will ...until Jokers in sikhi bhes  started to promote themselves by laying out the daswand given by poor sikhs for nonsikh activities or support. If you support the mazhabs who actively want your panth to end what would you call that? idiocy comes to mind, suicidal , uneducated and lacking in foresight. Singh Sabha movement used daswand to do parchaar in villages and to root out anglican missionaries' influence , they used it for creating sikh scholarly books on itihaas, gurbani etc.

Daan is seperate from Daswand , daswand is purely for sikh activities so nobody should be using it for building mosques , churches or temples. However outside of the expected daswand which belongs to the Guru , we can give daan but there is no restrictions on it because this is individual

to this end I find Ravi Singh's advice to give your daswand to  Khalsa aid , fairly cretinous  same with sikh channel (which promotes LGBT slant on gurbani) and sikhnet and its affiliates . Doing charity work is good and praiseworthy but it doesn't have the same level in sikhi as it is also very likely to increase haumai in giver and agency receiving, which kind of self-defeating . Khalsa aid is NOT doing nishkam sewa exactly and neither are the sgpc dgmc who do it the use of daswand for photo opps and political scores