Sikhs in Poverty and Future of Panjab

[GurjantGnostic]

22 minutes ago, Not2Cool2Argue said:

These woke people will also be curtailing gun rights which may lead to restrictions on kirpaans. 

And woke ppl support beadbi like inter religious and gay marriages. And may enforce them on religions.  

Like dally said, its best not to choose sides btw right and left. Best if we played both sides. So its good if we have sikhs on both sides as long as they dont bring those political divides btw sikhs

Right and left are two sides of the same coin. Left is just a little more humane, and less flashy with their wp. 

They take the core issues and divide them 50 50 to divide us roughly 50 50. 

[Kau89r8]

On 6/13/2021 at 2:58 PM, californiasardar1 said:

. But here is what you fail to realize: if those organizations focused strictly on Sikhs, they would raise only a tiny fraction of the money that they currently are able to raise (in particular, they would raise much less money from Sikhs than they currently raise).

 

That's why we need to become self-sufficient and start looking at ways to rich our community. Only then we can have bigger impact and help ours in need, like creating jobs, help Sikhs in poverty...we need long-term sustainable solutions...Wealth = freedom...or the money collected should be invested to make more money...

 

[Kau89r8]

On 6/14/2021 at 3:34 AM, Not2Cool2Argue said:

These woke people will also be curtailing gun rights which may lead to restrictions on kirpaans. 

And woke ppl support beadbi like inter religious and gay marriages. And may enforce them on religions.  

Like dally said, its best not to choose sides btw right and left. Best if we played both sides. So its good if we have sikhs on both sides as long as they dont bring those political divides btw sikhs

Exactly these are the ones im talking amount the amount of beadbi that come from them, they will be like they will bring our Gurus and they're wokeness into same light... ..

On 6/14/2021 at 3:58 AM, GurjantGnostic said:

Right and left are two sides of the same coin. Left is just a little more humane, and less flashy with their wp. 

They take the core issues and divide them 50 50 to divide us roughly 50 50. 

We are literally a minority of a minority...we don't even have that much of an impact on West let alone Global politics...Should just be neutral focus on or community and spreading Sikhi..Same way we get caught up between India - Pakistan Hinduvstas vs islamists....just stay at bay...I cant stand when you have groups like 'Sikhs for Trump' or 'Sikhs for biden'..super cringe ..You can chose to be left or right politics but Sikhi is beyond politics

We really are lacking leadership in our kaum today 

[GurjantGnostic]

10 hours ago, Kau89r8 said:

Exactly these are the ones im talking amount the amount of beadbi that come from them, they will be like they will bring our Gurus and they're wokeness into same light... ..

We are literally a minority of a minority...we don't even have that much of an impact on West let alone Global politics...Should just be neutral focus on or community and spreading Sikhi..Same way we get caught up between India - Pakistan Hinduvstas vs islamists....just stay at bay...I cant stand when you have groups like 'Sikhs for Trump' or 'Sikhs for biden'..super cringe ..You can chose to be left or right politics but Sikhi is beyond politics

We really are lacking leadership in our kaum today 

Amen Bhenji. If we focus on Gursikhi only sometimes that seems left or right but it's just it's own thing. 

[Ranjeet01]

Charities rarely help the people they claim to help. The money you provide goes to the administration costs and salaries of the charities.

The question is how the money is being allocated and is it being effective in the way it is being spent 

I personally think instead of whining about poor Sikhs in India we should find a more effective way.

Why don't we choose a poor Sikh kid and sponsor them for their education. Help them with books, school uniforms etc, school fees etc.

Poor Sikhs like many of us Sikhs can be quite stubborn to ask for help. We have to help them in the right way not just give handouts.

 

 

[AkalkiFauj]

We can't do Sarbat Da Bhalla if we can't even look after fellow Sikhs!!!

[dallysingh101]

On 6/14/2021 at 3:34 AM, Not2Cool2Argue said:

These woke people will also be curtailing gun rights which may lead to restrictions on kirpaans. 

Seriously, if it were legal for me to own guns I'd have like at least 20. I don't know what it is with a lot of US Sikhs that they don't arm and defend themselves, when it's your 'constitutional right'  (as the whites keep going on about!) Plus it's proper inline with Sikhi????

I mean if you're a taxi driver (given how many of them have got attacked over the years as Bin Ladens), and you had half a brain, you'd have concealed weapons license at the very least.   

[dallysingh101]

On 6/16/2021 at 7:35 AM, Ranjeet01 said:

Poor Sikhs like many of us Sikhs can be quite stubborn to ask for help. We have to help them in the right way not just give handouts.

Another thing I've seen is financially established Sikhs have contempt for their brethren who are struggling. What's strange is these to55ers will give opportunities to gairh-Sikhs, but when it comes to their own, they treat them like second rate citizens, like they want to keep them down instead of giving them a hand up. It's like ruthless competition within, and chaaploosian with those outside.  

That being said, even those who come up through this, go on to do the same thing when the ball is on the other foot.  Seems like text book sociopathy to me? 

[BhForce]

Thanks a lot for this post. Stop with putting gold on every single gumat, every palki, and so on until every Sikh has 3 good meals a day, with milk and ghee.

I don't want to see a single kar seva baba asking for money to redo the floor in a gurdwara with all-new marble until every Sikh has a pukka floor in his house.

Stop with spending thousands, even lakhs of rupees on Rumallahs until every Sikh has at least a few changes of decent clothes. Obviously, we show respect to Guru Granth Sahib ji by adornment with fine raiments. But we don't need more Rumallahs in the almari than days in the year!

The only reason we're sitting in air conditioning typing on laptops is sheer luck. Let's remember our brothers.

[BhForce]

On 6/12/2021 at 9:15 AM, Kau89r8 said:

Unfortunately in this forum, some of us been posting about this issues for a while....

I don't mind if you want to help others, but then stop operating under 'Sikh charities' when Sikhi is not your first and only priority. Its become business model....if we had the money power like others do by all means help all we can ...we dont! Even if you want to help others, they just go too far too much simping

 

That's the key point: I think it is OK and even very good to help others. Because this is Akal Purkh ka panth. But, again, until every Sikh has a decent life, helping others can only be a low (not high) priority.