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9 hours ago, Rajasthani said:

both can Be done We Are Not Giving rice bag To them For Conversion We can Just do a little Prachar about Our history gurbani (and Treat Them Equally most Important)  Thats it...if they are Intrested And Want to Learn They can come If not Then no problem

Singh Sabha Movement/ master tara Singh Did same 

And New Converts are Better sikhS Then many who were Born in Sikh Family 

like master Tara Singh bhagat /Puran Singh etc They have Done Great Prachar of sikhi 

Rice bag is only for poor and destitute Hindus. 

New converts will be forced to follow diktat of SGPC that is aiding and abetting Christian conversion. The situation is different now as before there was no SGPC and Congress (who in turn is affiliated with ISI). They may be good Sikhs to start with but if the SGPC is not reformed then they will be subject to their evil plans. 

I can't see how one can reform using outsiders unless they join with an agenda. 

 

 

 

 

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10 hours ago, Rajasthani said:

Its pretty hard To bring RajasthanI Jatts In fold Of sikhi.. 

But we can bring Sindhi Hindus They are 5 lakh in Rajasthan And I am sure 60-70℅ are connected to sikhi in Our local Gurdwara every Sunday 10-12 Sindhi Family come...

Vanjaras too there are many vanjaras in Rajasthan  https://www.indiatoday.in/magazine/religion/story/19860531-growing-number-of-banjaras-of-andhra-pradesh-slowly-get-drawn-into-sikhism-800896-1986-05-31

It seems that the Banjaras are poor and destitute and hence looking to improve their lot.  They should be provided benefits rather than a forced conversion due to need and not due to seeking spiritual truth. This is total govt induced poverty as done by Christians all over the world. 

Their aim is to bring a One World Religion that can be controlled artificially through AI. I have been subjected to its evils. 

 

 

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On 6/25/2021 at 12:08 PM, Suchi said:

The bad influences are mainly to do with the fact that Hindu temples don't have control of their funds and therefore cannot fulfill their duties. Other minority religions/panths are being subsidised through these funds. The end game is to convert everyone away from Dharmic religions. Sikhs are being destroyed to force them into Christianity. 

If you want to stop this then you need to collaborate with other Dharmic faiths Or introduce ways to stop the destruction, such as bring more Dharmic practices that will empower those being weakened through drugs/alcohol. 

But as most Gurdwaras are aligned with Congress there is little hope of this happening as they are also responsible for the destruction. 

So another way would be to form a new  hybrid panth away from the influence of SGPC and their cronies. But that seems a long hard road if you can't convince the majority of followers. 

Yeah bro. I think all tha Jathas need to reform their representation model from the ground up. No more democracy. Appointed Panj Pyare and appointed representatives. Rely on money less and keep what money is used in house, and spend it directly on Daswandh and Daan. 

Big fan of collaboration. 

The power structure in Sikhi should return to families, Bungas and Jathas being strong locally and collaborating globally. 

I think an open source online model of what Russel Means talks about in this video, could be used by all of us to reform a digital tribal confederation government, based on consensus. And simply as a world people, have our own decentralized represenative government. 

And it would cost only a website. 

Democracy has not only hamstrung and handed over Gurudwaras, it's put the Mona in a really awkward position. 

A representative model picking from the Khalsa would alleviate all that. 

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We should have instatribe not instagram. Where we form consensus, group into consenting bodies, collaborate, and open source all information people need to live and be self determined both in and outside the world of imperial governments. 

Hold digital summits on water and land rights, and document and make public to each other any attempts on our freedoms. 

The same model you use to organize your own families, Bungas and Gurudwaras you just open up to prople doing the same for themselves, their ways, and collaborate. 

Native american clans were dedicated to things, like air, water, various plants and animals and it was their job to steward and protect those resources and report to the rest of the tribes about things effecting their animal or element. 

Tribes would have members from a variety of clans, and clans would collaborate with their fellow clan members in other tribes. 

Only takes a website. An initial agreement that evey participant is with from day one, and the rest unfolds according to model russel describes. We write our own initial bill of universal rights. We can disagree about everythting else and just group with like minds. 

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To focus more importantly just on Sikhi. 

For example. We have divided Jathas. 

We should all see what we 100 percent on agree on. How much Sikhi is simply not contended? We write that down. Things lile Bhang and Jhatka we just don't force either way.

You don't bring the goat to the veggie Gurudwara and you don't go to Hazur Sahib and tell them to stop. 

So we take the 99 percebt of Sikhi we agree on and look out for each other. 

And we have to recognize the intentional system of Khalsa, Keshdhari, Sehajdhari, Mona, allies and associates. 

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