Reincarnation (more studying)

[Redoptics]

So more studying,  now the reincarnation process is it actually what we will become after passing or are we talking about our mind is constantly being reincarnated.

Acting like an i.diot,  your mind is reincarnated into a donkey,  thinking about sex all the time, your mind is reincarnated into a dog etc.

As nobody knows what happens after death.

ਗੋਂਡ ॥

ਨਰੂ ਮਰੈ ਨਰੁ ਕਾਮਿ ਨ ਆਵੈ ॥ ਪਸੂ ਮਰੈ ਦਸ ਕਾਜ ਸਵਾਰੈ ॥੧॥

ਅਪਨੇ ਕਰਮ ਕੀ ਗਤਿ ਮੈ ਕਿਆ ਜਾਨਉ ॥ ਮੈ ਕਿਆ ਜਾਨਉ ਬਾਬਾ ਰੇ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

ਹਾਡ ਜਲੇ ਜੈਸੇ ਲਕਰੀ ਕਾ ਤੂਲਾ ॥ ਕੇਸ ਜਲੇ ਜੈਸੇ ਘਾਸ ਕਾ ਪੂਲਾ ॥੨॥

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਤਬ ਹੀ ਨਰੁ ਜਾਗੈ ॥ ਜਮ ਕਾ ਡੰਡੁ ਮੂੰਡ ਮਹਿ ਲਾਗੈ ॥੩॥੨॥

[intrigued]

To my knowledge, the soul is continuously reincarnated until brahm gyan is achieved

[Shaheed4life]

On 6/29/2021 at 7:23 AM, Redoptics said:

So more studying,  now the reincarnation process is it actually what we will become after passing or are we talking about our mind is constantly being reincarnated.

Acting like an i.diot,  your mind is reincarnated into a donkey,  thinking about sex all the time, your mind is reincarnated into a dog etc.

As nobody knows what happens after death.

ਗੋਂਡ ॥

ਨਰੂ ਮਰੈ ਨਰੁ ਕਾਮਿ ਨ ਆਵੈ ॥ ਪਸੂ ਮਰੈ ਦਸ ਕਾਜ ਸਵਾਰੈ ॥੧॥

ਅਪਨੇ ਕਰਮ ਕੀ ਗਤਿ ਮੈ ਕਿਆ ਜਾਨਉ ॥ ਮੈ ਕਿਆ ਜਾਨਉ ਬਾਬਾ ਰੇ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

ਹਾਡ ਜਲੇ ਜੈਸੇ ਲਕਰੀ ਕਾ ਤੂਲਾ ॥ ਕੇਸ ਜਲੇ ਜੈਸੇ ਘਾਸ ਕਾ ਪੂਲਾ ॥੨॥

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਤਬ ਹੀ ਨਰੁ ਜਾਗੈ ॥ ਜਮ ਕਾ ਡੰਡੁ ਮੂੰਡ ਮਹਿ ਲਾਗੈ ॥੩॥੨॥

Vaheguru ji ka khalsa Vaheguru ji ki fateh

Veerji, if i am not wrong the mind that is being referred to is our consciousness.It is our consciousness (soul) that gets reincarnated.The mind that Gurbani talks about does not refer to our physical mind like our brain.It refers to our consciousness (soul).

Sangat ji please forgive me and correct what i said if i am wrong

Bhul Chuk Maf

[Singh1989]

Sadly, reincarnation is physical. 

If we wish not to fall in the physical form we must prepare our mental form; Sangat, Simran, Seva, listening to Hukam and acting upon it, 2.5 hours simran a day and keep away from panj dukh. 

[AmanSingh7]

When we are reincarnated, are we reincarnated on the same planet/generation? Can we reincarnated to a previous to era? 

also when we die, does life on earth continue or it does it stop until we come back? And how long does it take come to earth? Is the time in the afterlife the same as here?
 

madd questions lol

[Shaheed4life]

1 hour ago, AmanSingh7 said:

When we are reincarnated, are we reincarnated on the same planet/generation? Can we reincarnated to a previous to era? 

also when we die, does life on earth continue or it does it stop until we come back? And how long does it take come to earth? Is the time in the afterlife the same as here?
 

madd questions lol

Veerji, i think life on earth continues? Vaheguru ji is timeless so dharamraj darbar shd be beyond and above time?Haha nice questions.

[Singh1989]

4 hours ago, AmanSingh7 said:

When we are reincarnated, are we reincarnated on the same planet/generation? Can we reincarnated to a previous to era? 

also when we die, does life on earth continue or it does it stop until we come back? And how long does it take come to earth? Is the time in the afterlife the same as here?
 

madd questions lol

Although it's great to question we end up creating, a term I may use outta content, "Jargon." If we can pass the jargon and walk in the path of Sikhi our Q's will be answered. 

Yesterday I took a day off work in order to fill out documents for our new house keys. I had to; pay down deposit, print out n sign a ln authority form, a few more forms and pressure was on to get it sorted out TODAY! Unfortunately I did not had to take a day off, nor stress about anything! I fell in the jargon of "TODAY!" All I had to do was pay down deposit and not take a day off work. 

[chatanga1]

On 6/29/2021 at 12:23 AM, Redoptics said:

So more studying,  now the reincarnation process is it actually what we will become after passing or are we talking about our mind is constantly being reincarnated.

 

Reincarnation does not happen in the mind. This is a new tactic being spread by the missionary parasites that are plaguing Gurmat. Why? Bevcause it's too close to Hindu religion. Any similarities between Hindusim and Gurmat must be Bahmanwaad and nothing else, and any similarities must be explained away even if they go against gurmat and are complete nonsense.

 

 

On 6/29/2021 at 12:23 AM, Redoptics said:

Acting like an i.diot,  your mind is reincarnated into a donkey,  thinking about sex all the time, your mind is reincarnated into a dog etc.

As nobody knows what happens after death.

So when someone acts good do they become liberated ? Do they fall into a joon where they are now one with Sri Akal Purkh? and then when they act bad they fall into another incarnation?

 

Look at this shabad concerning reincarnation :

ਗਉੜੀ ਗੁਆਰੇਰੀ ਮਹਲਾ ੫ ॥ Gauree Gwaarayree, Fifth Mehl:

ਕਈ ਜਨਮ ਭਏ ਕੀਟ ਪਤੰਗਾ ॥ In so many incarnations, you were a worm and an insect;

ਕਈ ਜਨਮ ਗਜ ਮੀਨ ਕੁਰੰਗਾ ॥ in so many incarnations, you were an elephant, a fish and a deer.

ਕਈ ਜਨਮ ਪੰਖੀ ਸਰਪ ਹੋਇਓ ॥ In so many incarnations, you were a bird and a snake.

ਕਈ ਜਨਮ ਹੈਵਰ ਬ੍ਰਿਖ ਜੋਇਓ ॥੧॥ In so many incarnations, you were yoked as an ox and a horse. ||1||

ਮਿਲੁ ਜਗਦੀਸ ਮਿਲਨ ਕੀ ਬਰੀਆ ॥ Meet the Lord of the Universe - now is the time to meet Him.

ਚਿਰੰਕਾਲ ਇਹ ਦੇਹ ਸੰਜਰੀਆ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥ After so very long, this human body was fashioned for you. ||1||Pause||

ਕਈ ਜਨਮ ਸੈਲ ਗਿਰਿ ਕਰਿਆ ॥ In so many incarnations, you were rocks and mountains;

ਕਈ ਜਨਮ ਗਰਭ ਹਿਰਿ ਖਰਿਆ ॥ in so many incarnations, you were aborted in the womb;

ਕਈ ਜਨਮ ਸਾਖ ਕਰਿ ਉਪਾਇਆ ॥ in so many incarnations, you developed branches and leaves;

ਲਖ ਚਉਰਾਸੀਹ ਜੋਨਿ ਭ੍ਰਮਾਇਆ ॥੨॥ you wandered through 8.4 million incarnations. ||2||

ਸਾਧਸੰਗਿ ਭਇਓ ਜਨਮੁ ਪਰਾਪਤਿ ॥ Through the Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy, you obtained this human life.

ਕਰਿ ਸੇਵਾ ਭਜੁ ਹਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਗੁਰਮਤਿ ॥ Do seva - selfless service; follow the Guru's Teachings, and vibrate the Lord's Name, Har, Har.

ਤਿਆਗਿ ਮਾਨੁ ਝੂਠੁ ਅਭਿਮਾਨੁ ॥ Abandon pride, falsehood and arrogance.

ਜੀਵਤ ਮਰਹਿ ਦਰਗਹ ਪਰਵਾਨੁ ॥੩॥ Remain dead while yet alive, and you shall be welcomed in the Court of the Lord. ||3||

ਜੋ ਕਿਛੁ ਹੋਆ ਸੁ ਤੁਝ ਤੇ ਹੋਗੁ ॥ Whatever has been, and whatever shall be, comes from You, Lord.

ਅਵਰੁ ਨ ਦੂਜਾ ਕਰਣੈ ਜੋਗੁ ॥ No one else can do anything at all.

ਤਾ ਮਿਲੀਐ ਜਾ ਲੈਹਿ ਮਿਲਾਇ ॥ We are united with You, when You unite us with Yourself.

ਕਹੁ ਨਾਨਕ ਹਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਗੁਣ ਗਾਇ ॥੪॥੩॥੭੨॥ Says Nanak, sing the Glorious Praises of the Lord, Har, Har. ||4||3||72||

 

OP, you have posted two foibles of human character and related them to animals, but what characteristics does a person have to display to become a worm, a deer, a mountain or a tree?

 

 

What characteristics does a person have to display to go throgh the "reincarnation of being aborted" ?

 

 

On 6/29/2021 at 12:23 AM, Redoptics said:

As nobody knows what happens after death.

 

That's not true though is it, if you read gurbani. Gurbani says   ਸਚੀ ਕਾਰੈ ਸਚੁ ਮਿਲੈ ਗੁਰਮਤਿ ਪਲੈ ਪਾਇ ॥ By true actions, the True Lord is met, and the Guru's Teachings are found.   ਸੋ ਨਰੁ ਜੰਮੈ ਨਾ ਮਰੈ ਨਾ ਆਵੈ ਨਾ ਜਾਇ ॥ Then, they are not subject to birth and death; they do not come and go in reincarnation.   ਨਾਨਕ ਦਰਿ ਪਰਧਾਨੁ ਸੋ ਦਰਗਹਿ ਪੈਧਾ ਜਾਇ ॥੪॥੧੪॥ O Nanak, they are respected at the Lord's Gate; they are robed in honor in the Court of the Lord. ||4||14||   and many more lines like this in Gurbani.

 

[chatanga1]

On 6/29/2021 at 12:23 AM, Redoptics said:

 

ਗੋਂਡ ॥

ਨਰੂ ਮਰੈ ਨਰੁ ਕਾਮਿ ਨ ਆਵੈ ॥ ਪਸੂ ਮਰੈ ਦਸ ਕਾਜ ਸਵਾਰੈ ॥੧॥

ਅਪਨੇ ਕਰਮ ਕੀ ਗਤਿ ਮੈ ਕਿਆ ਜਾਨਉ ॥ ਮੈ ਕਿਆ ਜਾਨਉ ਬਾਬਾ ਰੇ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

ਹਾਡ ਜਲੇ ਜੈਸੇ ਲਕਰੀ ਕਾ ਤੂਲਾ ॥ ਕੇਸ ਜਲੇ ਜੈਸੇ ਘਾਸ ਕਾ ਪੂਲਾ ॥੨॥

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਤਬ ਹੀ ਨਰੁ ਜਾਗੈ ॥ ਜਮ ਕਾ ਡੰਡੁ ਮੂੰਡ ਮਹਿ ਲਾਗੈ ॥੩॥੨॥

 

This shabad has nothing to do with reincarnation. It points out the poignant fact that a human body has no value in death, not like an animal body which still goes on to serve a purpose. It's telling humans not to be proud of their bodies or egotistic if they are beautiful or strong etc. Why? Because one day that body will be dust and worthless. Worth LESS than an animal whose body gives assisitance after death.

 

Brother, you need to stop listening to missionary parasites like dhunda panthpreet and dhadrianwala. They only study a select few shabads and even twist the meaning of those and confuse other people. Why do these people never engage in debates with others? Because they are afraid of being exposed.

 

 

[chatanga1]

On 7/1/2021 at 6:19 AM, AmanSingh7 said:

When we are reincarnated, are we reincarnated on the same planet/generation? Can we reincarnated to a previous to era? 

also when we die, does life on earth continue or it does it stop until we come back? And how long does it take come to earth? Is the time in the afterlife the same as here?
 

madd questions lol

 

Watch this video brother  :

 

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