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On 8/17/2021 at 8:18 AM, dharamyudh said:

I've seen loads of Pakistanis praising the Taliban. These guys better be prepared because the Afghani Taliban released Pakistani Taliban members out of Afghan jails. 

correction  USA compelled pakistan govt to release pakistani talibanis as part of the prep for negioations in Afghanistan

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https://www.thestatesman.com/india/canada-to-admit-20000-afghans-sikhs-hindus-1502994743.html Canada is bringing in Afghan Sikhs and Hindus as refugees. 

In India Hindu and Sikh refugess are treated badly No Jobs No Home etc no documents no education etc 

Trigger finger discipline. They've been learning since they've been "away."  

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"Salute to Afghan Sikh brothers’ Sikhi Spirit🙏🏻

I received a message from someone who has direct involvement with the Sikh Afghans still in Afghanistan.
There are 250 individuals left, who all reached Kabul this Sunday morning.

Of the 250 Sikhs, 10 Sikhs have volunteered to remain behind to look after the Gurdwaras (Sikh holy shrines). They do so with the knowledge that their lives will/could be in danger and they have stated they accept any responsibility of their actions.

I heard a recording from Bhai Jasbir Singh Ji from Jalabad. He informs the Sangat that all the Sangat of Jalabad have left for Kabul to seek safety at Gurdwara Karta Parvaar. However, Bhai Jasbir Singh Ji and his family (wife and children) and another Gursikh have decided to stay back in Jalabad. He says he has no desire to migrate abroad and make a new life at the expense of abandoning the historical Gurdwara of Guru Nanak Dev Ji in Jalabad. He says, if they leave the Gurdwara will either be taken over by Muslims or destroyed.

They have transported all Guru Granth Sahib Ji’s saroops to Kabul. They just have 2 senchis (volume parts) of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji which they do Parkaash and Paath from. Bhai Jasbir Singh Ji says he knows that he and his family may be killed by the Taliban (or splinter groups), however they are willing to sacrifice themselves for the House of Guru Nanak. Well wisher Muslim families have helped to guard the other Sikh shrines in Jalabad from attacks or encroachment.

This brought tears to my eyes. Salute to him and all the Gursikh brothers and sisters who have the choice of either (1) leaving Afghanistan and abandoning their historical holy shrines and homes, (2) cutting their hair and embracing Islam, or (3) staying to look after the Gurdwaras with death looming forever above them.

May the Sikhi Spirit of our Afghan Sikh brothers and sisters motivate those brothers and sisters from Sikh families who still have cut Kes (hair), not stopped drinking alcohol or smoking/vaping/drugs, not yet began reading Gurbani as part of their daily life, or not yet begun wearing Dastaar- claim back and look after their Sikhi in solidarity and respect of the Afghan Sikhs."

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13 minutes ago, Ranjeet01 said:

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cities/chandigarh-news/sikhs-taking-refuge-at-kabul-gurdwara-angry-at-two-mps-for-leaving-them-behind-101629659239215-amp.html?

Might explain the predicament between Afghan Sikhs.

It looks like they abandon each other when it comes down to the crux.

Looks like it was politician Sikhs who (surprise surprise) thought of themselves first.  

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https://www.livemint.com/news/india/this-is-why-caa-is-necessary-hardeep-singh-puri-points-to-afghanistan-crisis-11629691519207.html

At least there is 392 less Sikhs and Hindus in Afghanistan before the Taliban begin their major onslaughts

How many Sikhs and Hindus are left and how many flights will there be to airlift them?

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https://indianexpress.com/article/india/taliban-stops-72-afghan-sikhs-and-hindus-from-boarding-iaf-plane-7464332/?fbclid=IwAR0IioeeyUsyx3RKnBlt27E0VPKQhFzyt819P-6U0qAlFHcYvAWw1LzEWWI

There were less than 700 Sikhs and Hindus in Afghanistan at the time of the 2020 gurdwara attack. Since then, at least 400 of them have migrated to India in batches. Once a country with over one lakh Sikhs and Hindus, Afghanistan saw an exodus after the mujahideen took over in 1992.

 

If this correct then the number left must be in double figures.

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7 hours ago, Ranjeet01 said:

https://indianexpress.com/article/india/taliban-stops-72-afghan-sikhs-and-hindus-from-boarding-iaf-plane-7464332/?fbclid=IwAR0IioeeyUsyx3RKnBlt27E0VPKQhFzyt819P-6U0qAlFHcYvAWw1LzEWWI

There were less than 700 Sikhs and Hindus in Afghanistan at the time of the 2020 gurdwara attack. Since then, at least 400 of them have migrated to India in batches. Once a country with over one lakh Sikhs and Hindus, Afghanistan saw an exodus after the mujahideen took over in 1992.

 

If this correct then the number left must be in double figures.

the numbers don't make sense if you do a tally of number claimed airlifted against remainder counted at gurdwara Sahib

my guess is there is around 650 people

 

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53 minutes ago, jkvlondon said:

the numbers don't make sense if you do a tally of number claimed airlifted against remainder counted at gurdwara Sahib

my guess is there is around 650 people

 

You are probably correct on that number.

The news reports seem to be conflicting with each other.

It would be good to know the exact number so that when they get airlifted we know how many remain.

It is important all our Sikhs are evacuated before the Taliban really starts to get nasty. 

 

 

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36 minutes ago, ChardikalaUK said:

And still the Afghan Sikhs who own shops in England employ Afghan muslim employees.

There is very little known about the Afghan Sikhs and their position in Afghan society other than being a minority in a Muslim country.

Being a trading and business community I imagine they are probably seen as an economically successful and prosperous community. 

This of course may likely foster envy amongst Muslim Afghans and make them a target. 

Being traders they probably stick to what they know and replicate their methods in Afghanistan in the UK.

For example, I notice any large shops (retail stores with large floor space) is quickly divided into about 5 or 6 sub-units and turned into bric-a-brac stores and it gives a bazaar type feeling.

They also foster the biradari system as well .

 

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