When is fat shaming okay?

[dallysingh101]

I have a pal, whose just piled on weight to morbidly obese proportions over a couple years after getting married. Before getting hitched we trained together and he got trim. 

Is fat shaming okay in these circumstances? When I've approached the topic subtly, he's reacted flippantly. Is it now okay to be more straight up? 

 

PS - remember he is a bloke not a girl, I know how that stuff can mess their pretty heads up. So just talking about males here. 

[GurjantGnostic]

12 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

I have a pal, whose just piled on weight to morbidly obese proportions over a couple years after getting married. Before getting hitched we trained together and he got trim. 

Is fat shaming okay in these circumstances? When I've approached the topic subtly, he's reacted flippantly. Is it now okay to be more straight up? 

 

PS - remember he is a bloke not a girl, I know how that stuff can mess their pretty heads up. So just talking about males here. 

I wouldn't bro. I'd stay in the discipline, count gains, set goals, train joyfully mindset. The fat really isn't the focus. If he gets moving, eating right, the weight just comes off when it's right. Keep the scale out of it too. Measure the gains in term of time logged training and better feeling, increased motion capability. Look at pro american football players bro, some people never get small, it's their body type. We need big berserkers too, they just have to be able to run the forty fast and keep moving. Nothing is scarier than big boy moving. When we get big men and women moving like agile, coordinated smaller people in Aikido...bro...lol...

I like compound, functional exercise, and activities more than just cardio and weights. It's more fun to do, and the fruits are more applicable to being a healthy happy functioning person in life. 

It takes a lit of work to get strict weight trainers capable of doing anything. Talk about uncoordinated, un...cohesive motion. They have a hard time just staying standing when we train and not just trip over their own legs. 

Form fits function. Just change the amount, and ways he moves and how he eats and drinks and have fun so he keeps it up and its all golden. 

[MisterrSingh]

When was it ever wrong?

But seriously, I wouldn't fat shame very young children. That stuff has the potential to damage them emotionally. But a shameless glutton who revels in his greed and lack of control? I wouldn't hold back.

[Sarbloh1469]

I'd say fat-shaming has become a pretty taboo topic to the point doctors are even being discouraged to recommend weight related solutions to medical problems. 

Reference article - https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/when-doctors-fat-shame-their-patients-everybody-loses-ncna1045921

However, he is your friend and you know him best, so approaching the topic with him should kind of be subjective on what type of person he is. I have a few male friends that also get quite defensive and hostile when weight and hitting the gym is mentioned- never mind fat shaming. I'd say subtle words of encouragement should be the way to go tbh.

[S1ngh]

I am overweight few kilos and i admit that it my mistake and my weakness will lead to health problems. Not in million years that i will accept it that Its okay to be a fat. This new trend of being happy and acceptable of what you are is dangerous and too weak. I have seen corporations now taking in models for clothes who are fat etc. 

Call me old style but humans who are on wrong path must be given a continuous jolt and encouragement to loose weight or any other issue. 

Just note that Bullying or calling names is not right and very wrong. 

[dallysingh101]

1 hour ago, S1ngh said:

I am overweight few kilos and i admit that it my mistake and my weakness will lead to health problems. Not in million years that i will accept it that Its okay to be a fat. This new trend of being happy and acceptable of what you are is dangerous and too weak. I have seen corporations now taking in models for clothes who are fat etc. 

Call me old style but humans who are on wrong path must be given a continuous jolt and encouragement to loose weight or any other issue. 

Just note that Bullying or calling names is not right and very wrong. 

This wasn't a few kilos gained. The guy was obese then we trained together, and he lost about 20 kgs (in run up to his wedding), now he's put 25 kg + back on

I don't understand how people don't start reacting to weight increases when they get 5/7 kgs over, why let it go to 25 kgs gain? That's not a small amount. And losing 25 kgs is ten times harder than losing 5 kgs. 

What makes you not start fighting the flab bro? Maybe you can help me understand? 

[GurjantGnostic]

3 hours ago, S1ngh said:

I am overweight few kilos and i admit that it my mistake and my weakness will lead to health problems. Not in million years that i will accept it that Its okay to be a fat. This new trend of being happy and acceptable of what you are is dangerous and too weak. I have seen corporations now taking in models for clothes who are fat etc. 

Call me old style but humans who are on wrong path must be given a continuous jolt and encouragement to loose weight or any other issue. 

Just note that Bullying or calling names is not right and very wrong. 

I just feel like we focus on fat too much. We aren't living communaly. Big boys and girls aren't eating the clan out of rations. 

I find Ahankar, Kaam, Krodh, Lobh, Moh, Haumai, lying,  playing nice, having ignorant thinking, being selfish all far far worse than somebody who's dragging too much weight around. They're already experiencing their burden. If somebody is close to you, yeah help them get fit, but really its largely none of our business and just an easy target. 

Billionaires are the real fatties. Sitting on wealth, decreasing the velocity of the currency, going to sleep on billions while billions go hungry. Fat people don't effect the food supply for others greedy people do. 

[dallysingh101]

2 minutes ago, GurjantGnostic said:

I just feel like we focus on fat too much. We aren't living communaly. Big boys and girls aren't eating the clan out of rations. 

I find Ahankar, Kaam, Krodh, Lobh, Moh, Haumai, lying,  playing nice, having ignorant thinking, being selfish all far far worse than somebody who's dragging too much weight around. They're already experiencing their burden. If somebody is close to you, yeah help them get fit, but really its largely none of our business and just an easy target. 

Billionaires are the real fatties. Sitting on wealth, decreasing the velocity of the currency, going to sleep on billions while billions go hungry. Fat people don't effect the food supply for others greedy people do. 

It gets deeper than that. Just a couple of weeks ago, a childhood friend of my brother passed away from a heart attack. He was always overweight and leaves children, and he weren't that old. 50 odd. 

So it impacts around.   

[GurjantGnostic]

31 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

It gets deeper than that. Just a couple of weeks ago, a childhood friend of my brother passed away from a heart attack. He was always overweight and leaves children, and he weren't that old. 50 odd. 

So it impacts around.   

Absolutely bro. That's why we should encourage them to be healthy, functional,  and eat well. 

I'm just saying in terms of what people pick to pick on others for, it's way down the list. 

Being big claps your heart out early, especially if weak. Live long and healthy all just saying don't pick on fat kids,  pick on people with influence who misuse it and the truly morally reprehensible. Encourage and include fat kids in your games and training. If a fat kid was ever first picked for kick ball they'd still be playing it. Fat shaming breaks people young is all. 

[Premi5]