GurjantGnostic Posted November 14, 2021 Report Share Posted November 14, 2021 5 hours ago, Jacfsing2 said: Lots of people from both AKJ and Damdami Taksal seem to give full Khand-Di-Pahul to babies. In catholicism they have baptism and confirmation. Baptism is often done to children well before they are old enough to realize. It's usually redone when old enough to understand, and all sins are forgiven then. And then once older they get confirmed. However if we look at the original baptists and then Jesus, they were baptising adults who were fully capable of making a new commitment, living up to it, and actually had sins to be forgiven. But still catholics and christians baptise babies because they want them protected and claimed for christendom. Really they should have other prayers of protection they offer and allow only young adults or better to be baptised. I doubt Amrit was offered this young in Purtan Gursikhi. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacfsing2 Posted November 14, 2021 Report Share Posted November 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, GurjantGnostic said: I doubt Amrit was offered this young in Purtan Gursikhi. The difference between Christian baptism and Amrit Sanchar is that they only believe in this life, so at least on some stance it kinda makes sense why they’d baptism kids. But in Gurmat we have reincarnation, and by Karams we are given certain lives, but ultimately have to decide for ourselves. A lot of high quality Gursikhs did take Khand-Di-Pahul as infants though, like Surrinder Singh Sodhi, but it shouldn’t be mainstream. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GurjantGnostic Posted November 14, 2021 Report Share Posted November 14, 2021 5 minutes ago, Jacfsing2 said: The difference between Christian baptism and Amrit Sanchar is that they only believe in this life, so at least on some stance it kinda makes sense why they’d baptism kids. But in Gurmat we have reincarnation, and by Karams we are given certain lives, but ultimately have to decide for ourselves. A lot of high quality Gursikhs did take Khand-Di-Pahul as infants though, like Surrinder Singh Sodhi, but it shouldn’t be mainstream. Good point. And. I agree. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premi5 Posted November 23, 2021 Report Share Posted November 23, 2021 On 11/14/2021 at 1:21 AM, Jacfsing2 said: The difference between Christian baptism and Amrit Sanchar is that they only believe in this life, so at least on some stance it kinda makes sense why they’d baptism kids. But in Gurmat we have reincarnation, and by Karams we are given certain lives, but ultimately have to decide for ourselves. A lot of high quality Gursikhs did take Khand-Di-Pahul as infants though, like Surrinder Singh Sodhi, but it shouldn’t be mainstream. On 11/14/2021 at 1:27 AM, GurjantGnostic said: Good point. And. I agree. I disagree. most who take Amrit is usually in adolescence onwards. I doubt most Baptised Christians follow ‘the life’. Amrit is also a much bigger commitment 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GurjantGnostic Posted November 23, 2021 Report Share Posted November 23, 2021 3 hours ago, Premi5 said: I disagree. most who take Amrit is usually in adolescence onwards. I doubt most Baptised Christians follow ‘the life’. Amrit is also a much bigger commitment Just to clarify, the part I agree with is that it's usually best to wait until old enough to understand what you're commiting to. That's the part you disagree with? Almost zero christians follow the life as you put it. Amrit is a way bigger commitment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premi5 Posted November 23, 2021 Report Share Posted November 23, 2021 15 minutes ago, GurjantGnostic said: Just to clarify, the part I agree with is that it's usually best to wait until old enough to understand what you're commiting to. That’s what I meant, agreed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dallysingh101 Posted November 23, 2021 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted November 23, 2021 6 hours ago, GurjantGnostic said: Just to clarify, the part I agree with is that it's usually best to wait until old enough to understand what you're commiting to. Definitely bro. I've known a few people, going back a number of generations, who took amrit as young people because of family pressure, and they all didn't live according to rehit after a while. This thing has to come from the heart and soul. No one should ever be compelled into it (unless on a battle field and Singhs are feeling kind to a small defeated minority). 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kaurr Posted March 14, 2022 Popular Post Report Share Posted March 14, 2022 On 8/21/2021 at 1:30 AM, dallysingh101 said: Thanks to Paapiman (SA) for originally sharing the source (sakhi 12). 1) ਧੰਧ - ਪੈਸੇ/ਧਨ ਕਮਾਉਣ ਲਈ ਕੀਤਾ ਕੰਮ। Something done for earning money/wealth 2) ਦੇਖਾ ਦੇਖੀ - imitatively, following or copying the vogue of some particular person; monkeying. 3) ਹਿਰਸੀ - ਹਿਰਸ (ਤ੍ਰਿਸਨਾ) ਵਾਲਾ. ਲਾਲਚੀ. desirous, ambitious, greedy, covetous, avaricious, avid; sexy, lascivious, lecherous. 4) ਸਿਦਕੀ - ਸਿਦਕ ਵਾਲਾ. ਸ਼੍ਰੱਧਾਲੂ. faith, belief, trust; contentment; patience. 5) ਭਾਵ - ਪਿਆਰ, ਪ੍ਰੇਮ। 2. ਚੰਗੇ ਖਿਆਲ। 3. ਭਵਿਖ ਕਾਲ, ਆਉਣ ਵਾਲਾ ਸਮਾਂ। 4. ਹਾਵ ਭਾਵ, ਨਖਰੇ। underlying meaning or idea, import sense, drift of thought; gist, purport; purpose, object; feeling, sentiment, emotion, passion, sensibility, affection. Just read this again. Number 2. So it says something about Sikhs rising to greatness right? Are we finally going to have sikh billionaires? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MisterrSingh Posted March 14, 2022 Popular Post Report Share Posted March 14, 2022 10 minutes ago, Kaurr said: Just read this again. Number 2. So it says something about Sikhs rising to greatness right? Are we finally going to have sikh billionaires? Where will they get their money from in the current economic system? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dallysingh101 Posted March 15, 2022 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted March 15, 2022 13 hours ago, Kaurr said: Just read this again. Number 2. So it says something about Sikhs rising to greatness right? Are we finally going to have sikh billionaires? I thought it meant people who become Sikhs because they observe other Sikhs and want a piece of the action? We were a much more powerful community when this was written. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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