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1 hour ago, Premi5 said:

I think most of the world has the same issues. 

A lot of charity in the 'West' is a 'con' if you realise that a lot of the money goes towards the charity workers and bosses. So, 'Westerners' are 'fooled' just as easily you could say

Charities are also tax exempt

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I completely understand what you said here. I played 'dumb' a little because I've asked you the question before but you were not very forthcoming (about whether UK bhangra scene increased popularity o

I think that you REALLY struggle to grasp what I say. And often get the wrong end of the stick. But let me tell you how I think it went.  The 80s were appalling for nonwhites in the UK. Open

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2 hours ago, shastarSingh said:

From what I know, it's the govt. of india which decides when sgpc elections are held.

They must be ..and ppl still deny they are not controlling SGPC

What is their budget ..close to 100 million usd right

Honestly hope our rats in the kaum get their karma not in this life but next..

hate that capt aloo badals all of them..

Some are getting so caught up that a leader like Lakha, Deepa Bhagwant maan will change  Panjab but they have no control they'll either be killed off and so much damage has been done.

Waheguru Mehar Kare 

 

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On 9/11/2021 at 2:28 PM, dallysingh101 said:

I'm only posting them to show just how fudhoo apnay look doing it.

As for the rest of your question, that's a long story in itself. Maybe some other time we will get into it. 

This post is wrong, and we should be pulling this guy up on it

But is it those 'jats' fault for mixing 'bhangra' with Sikhi when celebrating Vaisakhi? 

 

 

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This post is wrong, and we should be pulling this guy up on it

But is it those 'jats' fault for mixing 'bhangra' with Sikhi when celebrating Vaisakhi? 

 

Yes it is. Drinking like a fish and bhangra paa-ing are central parts of jut culture that have spread to the rest of Panjabis. 

Plus, you've even confessed to being on the slow, gullible side yourself. There's probably a lot you don't understand. 

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24 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

Yes it is. Drinking like a fish and bhangra paa-ing are central parts of jut culture that have spread to the rest of Panjabis. 

Plus, you've even confessed to being on the slow, gullible side yourself. There's probably a lot you don't understand. 

I thought your theory was that Pakistanis in the UK encouraged bhangra culture for grooming. Bhangra got popular in UK then spread to Punjab

But, I 've spent a fair amount of time in the pind and never seen anyone doing bhangra. Only at wedding parties. 

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1 hour ago, Premi5 said:

I thought your theory was that Pakistanis in the UK encouraged bhangra culture for grooming. Bhangra got popular in UK then spread to Punjab

But, I 've spent a fair amount of time in the pind and never seen anyone doing bhangra. Only at wedding parties. 

I think that you REALLY struggle to grasp what I say. And often get the wrong end of the stick.

But let me tell you how I think it went. 

The 80s were appalling for nonwhites in the UK. Openly racist abuse, attacks, a large part of the population especially hated 'p**is' (as in brown people), the smell of the food, the alien dress codes (turbans, shalwaars etc.), goofy accents. Parents were also highly conservative then too. Children were frequently not allowed to socialise outside of school. 

In that background, when certain 'bhangra groups' started doing concerts (like Alaap, Apna Sangeet,Heera, Premi etc), all young brown people jumped on it. It was an identity they could be proud of. It was Sikh Panjabis who dominated the actual groups, but all brown people were turning up to concerts. This also took place with the spread of drinking in the youth, which many had learnt from their fathers or older relatives. People (mainly apnay) were off their heads bhangra paa-ing. Gigs took place during school hours because many parents wouldn't let kids go out in the evening.

Now whilst this was happening, another movement was taking place that came from the north. It was the precursor to what we know now as Islamic fundamentalism. These people disliked the perceived wanton, hedonistic culture of 'Sikhs' and how it was infecting their own community. They stopped sulliyan going to the gigs essentially, and those sullay that went had an impression of drunken sl@gs being available for easy sex. So more and more predators would come to these things. 

Some apnay (especially in B'ham) clocked what was going on. This led to conflicts. 

For a while this industry grew and morphed in various ways. A lot of nonSikhs jumped on the bandwagon to try and make money. Opening up labels, sponsoring gigs trying to make money.

That all being said, it's our own lots fault for promoting this so much. Predators exploited what apnay put out. In the meanwhile, bhangra paa-ing, drinking, and a variety of negative things have come to be strongly associated with apnay. And this 'balle balle' caricature has formed, and many apnay live up to it. 

The historic reality of bhangra is that it was originally a dance performed at celebrations (like giddah for women) but especially at Vasaikhi by Juts. The word bhangra itself derives from the use of 'bhang' or cannabis used around this time of celebrating getting the harvest in. Drink is also strong feature of Jut culture, so that is the original source of this 'cultural phenomena'. Thinking people believe that Dasmesh pita specifically chose Vasaikhi for the revelation of the Khalsa to give an alternative to this way of celebrating it. Like Hola Mohalla was given as an alternative to Holi.      

Your point of how british bhangra had global impacts, including on Panjab itself is a very interesting one. 

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43 minutes ago, Premi5 said:

With the bhangra thing, we (Sikhs especially those identifiable by their physical appearance as one) are own worst enemy in promoting the drinking/dancing/silly image that many non Sikhs have of s

 

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    • Check your hypocrite¬†ar5e out......lmao I've used this platform to highlight issues fudhoos (like yourself) tried to bury. And it worked. Now all of you are aware of grooming. Soon as you mention juts and alcoholism, your kuthchee gets in a twist. Ha ha! And the same way expert-fudhoos in the quom (like yourself) tried to bury that issue. I'll bring these other ones out too. F**k your caste pride.¬† You say you love your culture and language blah blah, when you ever translate anything? When you ever share any ithihaasic information? NEVER.¬† You are a closeted b1tch. Carry on w**king off to Moosewala proud jut types and gives us all a laugh.¬† I live real life all the time, every minute I'm in the world. It's actually closeted fools (like yourself) that needs the info more than anything. Give the bhangra a break and try using your brains for a¬†second.¬†¬† What makes you think this hasn't and doesn't get done you closeted fudhoo. For decades too.¬†¬†You could check with the police and intelligence services here, but they'd probably make you another jut-gadaar-informant with your low IQ.¬† ¬†I'm guessing you're¬†from Canada. Just stick to being good comedians, like it seems you're best at over there.¬† You are a cry baby, crying over highlighting fudhoo backwards behaviour you probably think is normal.¬† I'm the one seeing it for what it is, and the bull5hit effect it has on our quom. You're the perfect example of the kind of dimwit it produces.¬† Go w**k off to some flying jut fantasy. You don't contribute sh1t. And stop using that name you're¬†using: like the Bhindranwale Tiger Force (or any kharkus) would be promoting the low IQ dream world you do. ¬† Screw what you are promoting, clued up apnay and apneean in the UK know exactly where that crap landed us. You're obviously slow, think of this as a catch up lesson. People like you promoting what you are, are exactly why we have this¬†stereotype about Panjabi identity in the first place.¬†
    • I think like Darshan sio Teja said similar things against Dasam Granth as modern day missionaries that they is praise of Chandi etc etc , sikhs should only believe in one granth
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