Why are people more involved with news(bad or good) than spiritual posts

[Redoptics]

5 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

I didn't say life goes on, I said the world goes on.

You know, maybe the truth is that we don't fully heal from deep wounds of the past. Maybe just getting to a point where we aren't frozen by them is enough, and enough to aim for. 

Maybe you are correct 

 

Jo Tho Praem Khaelan Kaa Chaao,  Sir Dhhar Thalee Galee, Maeree Aao

[dallysingh101]

8 minutes ago, Redoptics said:

Maybe you are correct 

Just try and keep your head up. It's never good for anyone to wallow in their pain.

Seek and find distractions. Meet new people, get some new hobbies/interests. Develop new skills. And make sure you're f**king training in some way. Helps big time. 

 

 

[GurjantGnostic]

4 hours ago, Redoptics said:

I have noticed on this forum,  I do not go on others, people more interested in the news rather than spiritual threads.

I thought the whole point of a Sangat was deal and help our spirituality,  but more interested in news thread, there was even a thread about Guru Nanak Ji fist Shabad and you allowed someone to say dogs b....... , 

How is it not raining coins into that Golak from the Akash? So freaking cute. 

[GurjantGnostic]

5 hours ago, GurjantGnostic said:

How is it not raining coins into that Golak from the Akash? So freaking cute. 

Confused bootha clearly didn't watch the originating post vid. Adorable. 

[Redoptics]

7 hours ago, GurjantGnostic said:

Confused bootha clearly didn't watch the originating post vid. Adorable. 

Lol

[MisterrSingh]

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Why are people more involved with news(bad or good) than spiritual posts?

Because discussing spirituality in the way that western Sikhs do (particularly on forums such as these where the contributors are anonymous) tends to come across as disingenuous attention seeking, or at least a discrete way of seeking praise and flattery for being "special."

One only has to peruse the Gupt section for the past 20 years on this site, lol, and see the many threads about "I had darshan of such-and-such. What does it mean?" The people who start these topics aren't looking for a genuine, down-to-earth explanation ("maybe it was your subconscious assembling a narrative like a dream?"), or one that doesn't aggrandize the OP. They want to be told, "You're the ONE! You're the next special super-being who'll be flying in the sky, saving Sikhi like Super-Singh or Neo from the Matrix!" This type of seeking intense validation is very offputting for those with at least a little bit of self-awareness and humility. Unfortunately, this behaviour seems to be, dare I say, uniquely Sikh. I would hazard a guess that this phenomena can be traced to the plethora of self-proclaimed sants and babeh that sprung up in the last century.

Anyone - more so the most intensely spiritual people - tend not to display their spiritual wares for the world to see. They quietly get on with it. Some even conceal their actual spirituality by putting up a facade of "duniyadaari" because the old-school (very, very old-school) spiritual masters would advise their students to retain a firm grip on their egos regardless of actual spiritual ability. Sadly, this type of person has faded from the modern world amongst the general sangat. I'd go as far to say that even the so-called great spiritual Sikhs (with international public profiles) of today lack this essential ingredient of foresight and self-awareness.

[Jai Tegang!]

9 hours ago, MisterrSingh said:

Because discussing spirituality in the way that western Sikhs do (particularly on forums such as these where the contributors are anonymous) tends to come across as disingenuous attention seeking, or at least a discrete way of seeking praise and flattery for being "special."

One only has to peruse the Gupt section for the past 20 years on this site, lol, and see the many threads about "I had darshan of such-and-such. What does it mean?" The people who start these topics aren't looking for a genuine, down-to-earth explanation ("maybe it was your subconscious assembling a narrative like a dream?"), or one that doesn't aggrandize the OP. They want to be told, "You're the ONE! You're the next special super-being who'll be flying in the sky, saving Sikhi like Super-Singh or Neo from the Matrix!" This type of seeking intense validation is very offputting for those with at least a little bit of self-awareness and humility. Unfortunately, this behaviour seems to be, dare I say, uniquely Sikh. I would hazard a guess that this phenomena can be traced to the plethora of self-proclaimed sants and babeh that sprung up in the last century.

Anyone - more so the most intensely spiritual people - tend not to display their spiritual wares for the world to see. They quietly get on with it. Some even conceal their actual spirituality by putting up a facade of "duniyadaari" because the old-school (very, very old-school) spiritual masters would advise their students to retain a firm grip on their egos regardless of actual spiritual ability. Sadly, this type of person has faded from the modern world amongst the general sangat. I'd go as far to say that even the so-called great spiritual Sikhs (with international public profiles) of today lack this essential ingredient of foresight and self-awareness.

The pragmatic and balanced lifestyle that encompassed a spiritual grounding coupled with razor sharp wits to engage with your actual social environment is what I’ve come to see as the ideal Sikh from studying the lives of Guru Sahibaan and early Sikh lives. Guru Sahibaan never left spirituality in the abstract domain. It was practiced in a practical manner through all of life's tribulations (more so than many of us will ever encounter). We seem to have skewed our focus by failing to contextualize outlier historical occurrences and this has led to all sorts of dead-end efforts where we feel like things just haven’t worked out in spite of following the xyz of this or that parcharik/baba. 
A whole business has spawned to cater to this offering of an unbalanced, dependant, fear-induced, a-historical, and frankly weak version of the Sikh as opposed to the fear-less, independent, visionary, spiritually fulfilled Sikh built over two centuries by Guru Sahibaan. 
 

 

[MisterrSingh]

3 hours ago, Jai Tegang! said:

The pragmatic and balanced lifestyle that encompassed a spiritual grounding coupled with razor sharp wits to engage with your actual social environment is what I’ve come to see as the ideal Sikh from studying the lives of Guru Sahibaan and early Sikh lives. Guru Sahibaan never left spirituality in the abstract domain. It was practiced in a practical manner through all of life's tribulations (more so than many of us will ever encounter). We seem to have skewed our focus by failing to contextualize outlier historical occurrences and this has led to all sorts of dead-end efforts where we feel like things just haven’t worked out in spite of following the xyz of this or that parcharik/baba. 

A whole business has spawned to cater to this offering of an unbalanced, dependant, fear-induced, a-historical, and frankly weak version of the Sikh as opposed to the fear-less, independent, visionary, spiritually fulfilled Sikh built over two centuries by Guru Sahibaan. 

There was an urgency to the practice of the original Sikhi; it was a necessity, in some cases a literal case of do or die particularly when the need for militarisation arose. To be fair the very early contemplative form of the faith prior to Guru Hargobind was far from theoretical; it may not have manifested the thunderous vigour of the later form, but it was still a "violent" revolt against the social and religious status quo.

Now in the current era it's become for most a leisurely pursuit; a first world activity of belly-aching over shariat ritual or at the other end of the spectrum a desire for a structureless, anything-goes ethos. This is partly the result of all forms of belief systems being degraded by a wider civilisational decline IMO.