I dont believe in islam but i think the quran is very based in terms of war

[dallysingh101]

8 hours ago, JSinghnz said:

Why is our population decreasing is the most important thing to be discussed.

Why is the Christian religion increasing so fast in Punjab.

 

 

I don't think this is complicated to understand (imo). Firstly is that parchaar isn't of the quality it should be right now. Most of it is preaching to the converted. But we shouldn't be blind to the fact that we're having laudable attempts to rectify this in places with orgs such as Basics of Sikhi. I'd say the efforts to promote aspects of Panjabi culture (jaat -paatism, bhangra etc.) are infinitely more sustained than for the dharam.  

And the other big thing is plain old hypocrisy. Look, people feel this and it disillusions them, which leads to apathy (and sometimes even antipathy) towards the panth. Caste has to come on top of the list here. Instead of being a egalitarian movement as originally envisioned by our Guru sahibs, people still (even worse than a few decades ago in my opinion) rigidly hold on to caste identity over a dharmic one. This involves them disrespecting those they perceive as beneath them, which only leads to alienation, which then causes those people to seek pastures where they won't be treated so bad. 

Other thing is perceived social mobility. If the church offers x,y and z (a welcoming environment, an approachable priest, pays for medical bills etc. etc.) and status (which many apnay are obsessed with) as well as employment, I don't think it is too surprising that people (who are already quite flimsy in their understanding and hence commitment to the dharam) jump ship. We could be providing these things to people ourselves, we should all know the SGPC budget is enormous, but corruption and selfishness dictates that resources are split between cronies. 

   

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What are the Sikhs doing anything about this?

I think the first reaction of literate people who truly identify with the dharam in this day and age, is to disassociate themselves from the corrupt institutes and use their own wits to study their heritage. They have to disassociate because the rot within those institutes will lead them to be disillusioned. 

What it boils down to is a complete breakdown of premier institutes.  

What is weird is that we've been here before as a panth, with masands, with movements like the Jaito movement. But for some reason, apnay today don't seem to be able to directly challenge the corrupt institutes today and force change? My mind gets blown by the fact that certain institutes are giving away alcohol to garner votes. And hardly anyone bats an eyelid. This would never have taken place when I was young. 

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1 hour ago, Kau89r8 said:

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Bhangra paa-ing our way into oblivion and irrelevance......there should be a shoot to kill policy towards anyone dressed like that in Panjab in my opinion. lol

[PuzzledToo]

15 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

Bhangra paa-ing our way into oblivion and irrelevance......there should be a shoot to kill policy towards anyone dressed like that in Panjab my opinion. lol

I actually lol'd at this.

Now yellow tracksuit bhangra wala from the gif's must be dreaming that he too could one day be a politician. 

[jkvlondon]

On 9/22/2021 at 4:01 PM, Kau89r8 said:

@proudkaur21Totally agree with you! Another thing i like is how they keep it Alpha which is why they attract many Muslims converts. many boxer convert to Islam too. They have beliefs like Mohammed flew from Mecca to Jerusalem on a half winged donkey, split the moon into 2 all these fairytailes yet they keep it very 'masculine.' Despite all the wars they still fastest growing religion. Also non-apologists against their jihad yet we keep washing is down with all is equal and humanity is the same..context matters.

We used to have that. Khrakus were the peak. Since then we only known for 'Panjabis love too PaRty BalLe BalLe' and 'free food'... 

 

protip: they keep all the wacko ideas hidden and promote the 'good' elements like zakat , praying five times , equality of man (skipping kuffar /momin hate speech)   same with christians  it's easy to sell a cult if you omit the biggest downfalls

 

[justasking]

i wouldn't say it's based on war. Id say its based on how one should live their life according through those lenses. Is war apart of life? unfortunately yes it is. We have our way and they have their own, the only problem is that they have a supremacist attitude and treat minorities like <banned word filter activated>. Now they aren't the only ones that do this however in our history we have mostly been through this kind of thing by them then later on Christians. Today they are still a huge problem but an equally bigger if not worse problem is the liberalism bull being shoved our throats

[jkvlondon]

7 hours ago, justasking said:

i wouldn't say it's based on war. Id say its based on how one should live their life according through those lenses. Is war apart of life? unfortunately yes it is. We have our way and they have their own, the only problem is that they have a supremacist attitude and treat minorities like <banned word filter activated>. Now they aren't the only ones that do this however in our history we have mostly been through this kind of thing by them then later on Christians. Today they are still a huge problem but an equally bigger if not worse problem is the liberalism bull being shoved our throats

it is based on the level of paranoia exhibited by a minority group that had been rejected by their own tribes until they took up the sword and started murdering their bretheren , a trend they has never stopped until the present day . It is ridiculous to justify that outlook now, as they are not hounded down except in one country in the world at the mo China and that is more to do with the CCP flexing .

[proudkaur21]

12 hours ago, justasking said:

i wouldn't say it's based on war. Id say its based on how one should live their life according through those lenses. Is war apart of life? unfortunately yes it is. We have our way and they have their own, the only problem is that they have a supremacist attitude and treat minorities like <banned word filter activated>. Now they aren't the only ones that do this however in our history we have mostly been through this kind of thing by them then later on Christians. Today they are still a huge problem but an equally bigger if not worse problem is the liberalism bull being shoved our throats

What i meant is that through the lens of spirituality what they do is completely wrong and evil but it helps their followers through tough times and in the end they win because people who base their entire action through the lens of morality dont realize that to fight off evil you have to play along with their games. For example sikhs are too kind to everyone because some dil saaf sikh spread that we have to be kind to our enemies too which is exactly why we are in this state. We are literally too kind to our enemies because we think through the lens of our morality instead of playing along the games of people who want us finished. For exampe in that case of kashmiri sikh girl, the liberal sikhs were saying oh she fell in love with him who are we to say anything but us people who are not into this woke stuff know that how the enemy tries to attack us through the wombs of our women. If you know about the story of kafiristan and how the people were killed and forced converted to islam through the wombs of their own women then we realise that we are not going to win this fight through the lens of morality but by being prepared against the games of the enemy and it doesnt matter whether our actions are immoral against the evil enemy because in the end it will only bring goodness into the world.

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