Covid

[GurjantGnostic]

If the vaccines work they should just let people choose to vaccinate and the rest of us will die right? No problem. 

But the vax doesn't work, and it should become mandatory why then?

Whether you got the vax or not, the politics around this should concern you more than covid. 

[S1ngh]

2 hours ago, GurjantGnostic said:

Mandatory jabs aren't a personal choice. Ursulas nazi youth parents didn't teach her that?

Singh ji, we already have mandatory vaccines such as polio and they are required in order to get in school or participate in school games. 

[GurjantGnostic]

44 minutes ago, S1ngh said:

Singh ji, we already have mandatory vaccines such as polio and they are required in order to get in school or participate in school games. 

That we've tested for 100 years. That are not entirely mandatory for say work etc. 

I support free will in this. 

What about covid immune people?

[S1ngh]

Hanji brother. Again vaccine for covid is not something that we are happy to take it but it is something stuck with wuhan lab error of having such life threatening virus. Personal choice to exempt for mandated vaccine does not work as you know that we are already running over by many mandated stuff such are taxes, car insurances, vaccine card to get in school etc. 

Not a good thing but also got no choice. 

 

[GurjantGnostic]

38 minutes ago, S1ngh said:

Hanji brother. Again vaccine for covid is not something that we are happy to take it but it is something stuck with wuhan lab error of having such life threatening virus. Personal choice to exempt for mandated vaccine does not work as you know that we are already running over by many mandated stuff such are taxes, car insurances, vaccine card to get in school etc. 

Not a good thing but also got no choice. 

 

I'll leave it at this Hanji. You need to contemplate precedent and slippery slope. I mean your mindset could be applied to anything. 

Still have made no comment about covid immune people. 

I mean why not mandate everything we deem beneficial?

You're talking about signing up not only you, but everyone, for mandatory jabs for decades? And you don't think there's any room for error in that? Or malfeasance? In Kalyug?

I don't want you have to close the thread or anything, we both want Sarbat Da Bhala, we just don't agree on this issue, and all other aspects of covid aside, mandatory anything, and the types of tactics we see being employed are not okay. 

[Suchi]

Murder case filed against Bill Gates. 

[S1ngh]

Just now, Suchi said:

Murder case filed against Bill Gates. 

These are serious deranged folks filing such cases lol

[Premi5]

22 hours ago, S1ngh said:

These are serious deranged folks filing such cases lol

Well, they might have a point if these vaccines are being pushed so hard. 

 

From Amazon

In this book, the Swedish doctor Sebastian Rushworth examines some of the most central questions about the Covid-19 pandemic: How deadly is Covid-19?What is long Covid?How accurate are the Covid tests?Does lockdown prevent Covid deaths?Why did Sweden have more deaths than other Nordic countries?What are the harms of lockdown?Do face masks stop Covid?Are the Covid vaccines safe and effective?Why did the world react so hysterically to Covid?

Sebastian Rushworth is a junior doctor in Stockholm, Sweden. His blog about health and science is widely read across the English speaking world. In Covid: Why most of what you know is wrong Sebastian Rushworth demonstrates that Covid-19 is nowhere near as bad as it is portrayed by the mainstream media. He shows that the mortality rate is below 0.2%, meaning that for most people the risk of dying if infected is less than 1 in 500 (and less than 1 in 3,000 if you’re below 70 years of age).

The disease preferentially strikes people who are anyway very close to the end of life, so the amount of lifetime lost when someone dies of the disease is usually tiny. The author also shows that 98% of people who get Covid are fully recovered within three months, and that there is no good evidence that Covid results in long term health consequences.Moreover, he points out that the measures taken to fight Covid, such as the lockdowns, the huge fear campaigns and the school closures, will result in far more years of life lost than will be lost to the virus directly. The data used in the book is publicly available, and frequently published in some of the most prestigious and respected scientific journals in the world.

Advance praise by dr. Malcolm Kendrick:"Covid-19 has triggered a pandemic, and a panic. Many people are bewildered by the avalanche of information, often contradictory. On his blog, Sebastian Rushworth has been a voice of calm reason throughout, trying to help people make sense of what is going on. As a front line doctor in Sweden he has had a front-row seat, and keen understanding of the disease, and our response to it. He takes the reader though some of the science, in order to explain what he is talking about. It is clear, it is reasoned. He believes that the Swedish response, although widely critizised, has been based on good evidence, and may end up being seen as the best way to have handled the pandemic. If you want a guide to what is really going on with Covid-19, then I fully recommend this book. You will end up with a much more complete understanding, which is what we are all looking for, I think."

[Premi5]

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-59524527

Italian man tries to dodge Covid jab using fake arm

Published

16 hours ago

An Italian man who wanted a Covid vaccination certificate without getting the jab turned up for his vaccine with a fake arm, officials say.

The man, in his 50s, arrived for his shot with a silicone mould covering his real arm, hoping it would go unnoticed.

But a nurse was not fooled and the man has now been reported to the police.

The nurse told local media that when she had rolled up his sleeve, she found the skin "rubbery and cold" and the pigment "too light".

After being discovered, the man tried to persuade the nurse to turn a blind eye, la Repubblica reported. But instead she reported him to the police for fraud.

Local police are now investigating the incident in Biella, north-west Italy, and local officials have criticised the man's actions.

"The case borders on the ridiculous, if it were not for the fact we are talking about a gesture of enormous gravity," the head of the Piedmont regional government, Albert Cirio, said in a statement on Facebook.

He said the ploy was "unacceptable faced with the sacrifice that our entire community has paid during the pandemic, in terms of human lives, the social and economic cost".

The man was reportedly a health worker who had been suspended from his job because he had not been vaccinated. The jab is mandatory for all health workers in Italy.

La Repubblica suggests the incident may not have been a one-off, pointing to a message on social media that may have been written by the man.

The Twitter post quoted by the paper featured a silicone male chest half-body suit, complete with fake arms and neck, that was on sale on Amazon for €488 (£416).

"If I go with this, will they notice? Maybe beneath the silicone I'll even put on some extra clothes to avoid the needle reaching my real arm," the Twitter user reportedly wrote.

The incident comes ahead of a tightening of the rules in Italy for those who have not been vaccinated.

Since August, Italians have needed a Covid "green pass" - showing proof of vaccination, a negative test or recovery from the virus - to access train stations, cinemas, restaurants, gyms and swimming pools.

But from Monday, these activities will be restricted to those with a "super green pass", which is only available to those who have been vaccinated or recently recovered from Covid.

[dallysingh101]