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2 hours ago, MisterrSingh said:

Fealty to the white ruling apparatus of colonial times in the hope of securing advantages for material enrichment and maybe eventual social ascension, I agree, but that never extended to the erosion of day-to-day cultural practices as they related to the expected norms of social conduct, the raising of children, and the imparting of values.  Those really only started to erode with exposure to a post-WW2 West. I'm not suggesting it was a tightly buttoned down patriarchal utopia back in the day, but in most native Punjabi communities back home the price for defying the pind's social contract was severe. 

I think a lot of stuff happened that isn't really spoken of. You get evidence of this when you get Panjabis doing genetic tests and having 15% european ancestry that points at such an ancestor only a few generations back, slap bang in the middle of the colonial period. It don't a take a genius to figure out what probably happened. Olders in my family have confirmed stuff that went on that was shady. I think that might be why you've got people who, by previous historical accounts, were described as dark skinned, now becoming light skinned? 

 Plus, (and I've said it before to you), CP pretty much highlights all manner of kartootan going on, including in the pind. How can you ignore that internal evidence? Plus look how many eloping romantic tales we have in our Panjabi culture. It's not just one Romeo and Juliet type case is it? 

I get that the consequences for getting caught would be severe, but that didn't stop some people doing it. Even in arab countries, with all it's harsh penalties for relationships outside of marriage, you still get women caught and lashed.   

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1 hour ago, Premi5 said:

The man, who was released on bail, is due at Birmingham Magistrates' Court on 25 November charged with obstructing a police officer and two counts of driving a vehicle when the VRM (vehicle registration) fails to conform with regulations.

This bit sounds really shady, like he was pulled up on some bull5hit in the first place. 

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2 minutes ago, MisterrSingh said:

The point is that as soon as someone within the pind stepped out of line in a way where their transgressions became common knowledge and tongues were sent wagging, the elders of that pind had no choice but to make an example of that person or people.

This wasn't done because these people were vindictive or evil; it was done because if NO action was taken, it was a greenlight to everyone else in that village that bad choices had no consequences. Nobody thought, "Ah well, this is the land of Kama Sutra and Chatropokhiyan; go enjoy yourself! You only live once!" 😅

It's not so much punishments after the fact, but more so a deterrent before starts anyone getting elti. There's always going to be rebellious sorts, but for the ones who had a mischievous spirit but a weak constitution, seeing a peer, friend, or sibling fall victim to the consequences of their bad choices was enough of a warning to knock it off. That was usually enough maintain order, and even undercut any type of secret, "underground" shenanigans because the risk was too high.

Yeah, I get that. I agree. 

You should read Prem Sumarag bro, it covers this stuff too. 

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1 minute ago, ChardikalaUK said:

<banned word filter activated> are always the aggressors. Need to teach them a lesson. I remember back in the 90s the Shere Punjab came down to Slough and destroyed the sullah stronghold of Chalvey. It ended the whole conflict!

what happened then? any video footage or anything? sorry as a canadian this stuff is all new to me its crazy this was going on in the 90s

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20 minutes ago, justasking said:

what happened then? any video footage or anything? sorry as a canadian this stuff is all new to me its crazy this was going on in the 90s

There's info about how SP started and spread in this RASE report if you're interested. Also gives evidence of grooming going on WAY back. 

https://www.sikhawareness.com/topic/19517-rase-report-religiously-aggravated-sexual-exploitation-of-sikh-girls-download-link/#comment-179483

 

 

23 minutes ago, ChardikalaUK said:

<banned word filter activated> are always the aggressors. Need to teach them a lesson. I remember back in the 90s the Shere Punjab came down to Slough and destroyed the sullah stronghold of Chalvey. It ended the whole conflict!

Who do you think are protecting this police man? english plod.  

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45 minutes ago, justasking said:

what happened then? any video footage or anything? sorry as a canadian this stuff is all new to me its crazy this was going on in the 90s

http://www.hvk.org/1997/0597/0209.html

https://groups.google.com/g/soc.culture.pakistan/c/ABIIVOsfB1M

When apne had balls. I was only in my early teens then. The suls at school respected the shere Punjab.

Canada is about 20-30 years behind the UK in terms of South Asian immigration. This will happen over there, if it already isn't.

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27 minutes ago, ChardikalaUK said:

Sikhs and Suls used to be united against Far Right racism in the 70s and early 80s. Once that threat was gone the suls showed their true colours and started their grooming antics.

That's what you will see in Canada and America soon.

Don't forget what part 'bhangra-culture' played in helping with the grooming. The Canucks have it laid out for potential groomers pretending they are Sikhs. 

 

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1 hour ago, ChardikalaUK said:

Sikhs and Suls used to be united against Far Right racism in the 70s and early 80s. Once that threat was gone the suls showed their true colours and started their grooming antics.

That's what you will see in Canada and America soon.

there has already been grooming rings in some canadian cities involving these people https://thepostmillennial.com/suspected-child-grooming-gang-arrested-in-alberta-for-alleged-sexual-exploitation-of-minors

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43 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

Don't forget what part 'bhangra-culture' played in helping with the grooming. The Canucks have it laid out for potential groomers pretending they are Sikhs. 

 

do the suls actually use grooming as a thing to be proud of cos i know tht if any other gangs would brag or get caught doing this to minors they will be dealt with in prison

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50 minutes ago, justasking said:

do the suls actually use grooming as a thing to be proud of cos i know tht if any other gangs would brag or get caught doing this to minors they will be dealt with in prison

These things are an attack on another communities masculinity. I think they see it as some sort of proof of their superiority (??). It's something Sikhs would struggle to grasp because of our dharam and it's values. These people aren't ashamed of it. In most urban towns, a helluva lot of goray families have sullay married within. Plus they (angreezis) are either scared or right-wing nazi wannabes (who are scared anyway).  Plus these lot (angreezis) have their own issues with normalising pedophilia (as the BBC Children's TV department have clearly demonstrated). 

In my own lifetime, here, I've seen a working class culture that used to be openly repelled by, and attacked 'nonces' i.e. pedos, in prison (they used to have to be segregated on special wings), to them being protected by 'islam' in prisons now. 

Paks have been put on a back foot by certain active Sikhs right now, but they usually start getting support from other sullay (kalay, goray, arabs, afghans) to try and protect themselves.

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https://www.itv.com/news/central/2021-11-04/police-apologise-to-man-after-turban-forcibly-removed-during-arrest

West Midlands Police apologise to man after 'turban forcibly removed' during arrest

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    Thursday 4 November 2021, 11:50am
  • West Midlands Police have apologised to a man who claimed his turban was "forcibly removing and stamped on" in Birmingham.

    The force have responded to the allegations against one of their officers, following a protest outside Perry Barr custody suite on October 27.

    Assistant Chief Constable for Local Policing, Richard Baker, said in a statement: "Today I met with the man to apologise to him for any distress he experienced as a result of this incident."

    He continued: "We understand the religious significance of head coverings to the Sikh faith and we know reports of this incident have caused outrage and anger to the Sikh community and the wider public."

    The Independent Office of Police Conduct (IOPC) are now carrying out a full investigation of the officers' interactions with the man in custody.

    'If you want to disrespect Sikhs you disrespect their turban', Amritpal Singh Dhesi says

     

    Amritpal Singh Dhesi from Sikh Council UK was among the protestors outside the Perry Barr Custody suite last month. He said if it occurred, it is shocking.

    "It shows the up-most disrespect possible. For example, for nations - if you stamp on their flag."

    "This is something greater than that. This is our everything, this is our crown. If you want to disrespect Sikhs you disrespect their turban," Mr Singh Dhesi.

    He added: "For us, the Sikh turban is like God is placing his hand on your head, it's our crown so any disrespect to that, is a disrespect to the faith but also a disrespect to god."


    The alleged incident took place at Perry Bar Custody suite and involved a member of the Sikh community, who had been arrested for 'minor traffic offences'.

    Mr Baker said: "I do not underestimate the impact this has had on the man as well as the Sikh community, both locally and further afield".

    He added: "This is absolutely not representative of West Midlands Police. We are committed to treating everyone with dignity and respect, and we continue to strive for better relationships with the communities we serve."

    "We are determined to hold to account any officer who does not adhere to the standards of professional behaviour."

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