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5 minutes ago, Jacfsing2 said:

I don’t think Bhagat Puran Singh ever got a Nobel prize, despite doing better sewa than Mother Theresa without any expectation of people converting. He actually gave his highest award back to the Indian government in 1984. 

Unfashionable causes Vs Fashionable causes. Bossing cultural narratives. We just don't possess that "pull" or more accurately there's nothing we have that can be used or manipulated to benefit the powers-that-be. Like I've said previously, we're an antiquated little group who punched above its weight, now desperately trying to remain relevant by clinging to delusions of grandeur that don't have any place in current reality.

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2 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:

I don't agree. 

 

I think in the UK, anti-imperialist Sikhs have played a very important role culturally, and will continue to do so. I think those 'yes men' (and women) who've kept up that grinning pro-sepoy narrative are the delusional ones. I think Sikh culture can and will play a very important cultural part in the UK in future. I think it already has in terms of outing the widespread grooming problem in english society. More is to come when we start sharing our true ithihaas with all the inspiring figures within - as opposed to the docile rural sepoy types. I mean look at how much interest just one film on Udham Singh has generated. Our Sikh culture has a lot to offer and people can learn a lot from it. We just need to dislodge and marginalise the puppets. 

Who have the anti-grooming movements highlighted as being the primary movers and shakers in that field? Musleh, lol, the UK's pet minority. Nobody's going to shabash for Sikhs for putting Islamic communal practices under the microscope regardless of the objective truth involved. If anything, white liberals are itching to tar us with the islamophobe label for even going this far. We're (as in non-Leftist Sikhs) seen as an annoying thorn in the side of these laughable attempts at creating a uniform "BAME" identity because we'll end up getting nothing from that relationship aside from being forced to endure the sight of our females having Anand Karaj's with goreh, kaleh, and the rest of them.

The thing is if we are to have any worthwhile cultural impact, it needs to be "mainstreamed." For that you need people on the "inside" who aren't liberals. But they only hire individuals who possess that particular mindset and ideology, so we can't get our message out at all. In fact we're deliberately misrepresented and slandered to shame us into compliance.

This idealistic meritocracy is not how things are undertaken in the system of now. You're in if you sing from their hymn sheet. You're out if you don't. 

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28 minutes ago, Ranjeet01 said:

We have to focus on what we do have control over. Since intra-Sikh matters are not a big matter in the mainstream, we identify and call out the traitors and shame them.

Yes, this is it. We're in no position to punch up, so we punch at our level, i.e. Apne who are begging to be sat at the top table. But act now while these sellouts don't have any impactful power. Once they're admitted into the inner sanctum, lol, they'll be afforded all the privileges and benefits that will stop people of our frame of mind from bringing them down a peg or two. 

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59 minutes ago, MisterrSingh said:

Yes, this is it. We're in no position to punch up, so we punch at our level, i.e. Apne who are begging to be sat at the top table. But act now while these sellouts don't have any impactful power. Once they're admitted into the inner sanctum, lol, they'll be afforded all the privileges and benefits that will stop people of our frame of mind from bringing them down a peg or two. 

We are the canaries in the coal mine again in this instance. But we have an opportunity here.

We may not have control of the macro-situation but we may have the power to influence things.

We Sikhs should do what we do best and carve our own path in tackling this menace. We pioneer, let's find a way.

"Where there's a Singh, there's a way!"

 

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