Domestic and sexual abuse of silenced Sikh women revealed

[GurjantGnostic]

2 minutes ago, Premi5 said:

This is disturbing

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazir_Afzal

Personal life[edit]

Afzal has been married three times, which he describes humorously as "multifaith engagement": "First to an Irish Catholic, then to an Indian Hindu and then to a British Sikh." He has one daughter and three sons and is a practising Muslim.^[3]

I don't know who he's married to now but she isn't a Sikh. 

Is she part of that womens group lol that the article is about?

[Premi5]

4 minutes ago, GurjantGnostic said:

That's weird the gang he busted was asian but the community his background helped him mesh with in the investigation was black. 

 A corrupt connection between the british and the pakistani grooming gangs has been obvious. 

Making excuses for the groomers. BTW, there are many Sikh cab drivers in the UK but we don't hear of them being involved in grooming. Funny that 

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/sep/03/nazir-afzal-there-is-no-religious-basis-for-the-abuse-in-rotherham

Wed 3 Sep 2014 19.54 BST

Nazir Afzal: ‘There is no religious basis for the abuse in Rotherham’

Nazir Afzal, the Crown Prosecution Service’s lead on child sexual abuse, says that it is about male power

Where there is involvement of Asian men or men of Pakistani origin, he points to a practical, rather than cultural explanation – the fact that in the areas where grooming scandals have been uncovered, those controlling the night-time economy, people working through the night in takeaways and driving minicabs, are predominantly Asian men. He argues that evidence suggests that victims were not targeted because they were white but because they were vulnerable and their vulnerability caused them to seek out “warmth, love, transport, mind-numbing substances, drugs, alcohol and food”.

“Who offers those things? In certain parts of the country, the place they go is the night-time economy,” he says. “Where you have Pakistani men, Asian men, disproportionately employed in the night-time economy, they are going to be more involved in this kind of activity than perhaps white men are. We keep hearing people talk about a problem in the north and the Midlands, and that’s where you have lots of minicab drivers, lots of people employed in takeaways, from that kind of background. If you have a preponderance of Asians working in those fields, some of that number, a very small number of those people, will take advantage of the girls who have moved into their sphere of influence. It’s tragic.”

 

“There is no religious basis for this. These men were not religious. Islam says that alcohol, drugs, rape and abuse are all forbidden, yet these men were surrounded by all of these things. So how can anyone say that these men were driven by their religion to do this kind of thing?

“They were doing this horrible, terrible stuff, because of the fact that they are men. That’s sadly what the driver is here. This is about male power. These young girls have been manipulated and abused because they were easy prey for evil men.”

Instead he believes that the cases were not pursued properly because “everyone involved was not as competent as they should have been. I can only speak for the cases I’ve dealt with, but it usually comes down to poor investigation; we didn’t investigate early enough. People have not been as good at their job as they should have been. They haven’t asked the right questions. As a result the victims did not have the confidence to come forward.”

[GurjantGnostic]

Shoot I mean. If you call swa are you just giving the groomers your info? Great way to generate leads. 

[GurjantGnostic]

Just now, Premi5 said:

Making excuses for the groomers. BTW, there are many Sikh cab drivers in the UK but we don't hear of them being involved in grooming. Funny that 

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/sep/03/nazir-afzal-there-is-no-religious-basis-for-the-abuse-in-rotherham

Wed 3 Sep 2014 19.54 BST

Nazir Afzal: ‘There is no religious basis for the abuse in Rotherham’

Nazir Afzal, the Crown Prosecution Service’s lead on child sexual abuse, says that it is about male power

Where there is involvement of Asian men or men of Pakistani origin, he points to a practical, rather than cultural explanation – the fact that in the areas where grooming scandals have been uncovered, those controlling the night-time economy, people working through the night in takeaways and driving minicabs, are predominantly Asian men. He argues that evidence suggests that victims were not targeted because they were white but because they were vulnerable and their vulnerability caused them to seek out “warmth, love, transport, mind-numbing substances, drugs, alcohol and food”.

“Who offers those things? In certain parts of the country, the place they go is the night-time economy,” he says. “Where you have Pakistani men, Asian men, disproportionately employed in the night-time economy, they are going to be more involved in this kind of activity than perhaps white men are. We keep hearing people talk about a problem in the north and the Midlands, and that’s where you have lots of minicab drivers, lots of people employed in takeaways, from that kind of background. If you have a preponderance of Asians working in those fields, some of that number, a very small number of those people, will take advantage of the girls who have moved into their sphere of influence. It’s tragic.”

 

“There is no religious basis for this. These men were not religious. Islam says that alcohol, drugs, rape and abuse are all forbidden, yet these men were surrounded by all of these things. So how can anyone say that these men were driven by their religion to do this kind of thing?

“They were doing this horrible, terrible stuff, because of the fact that they are men. That’s sadly what the driver is here. This is about male power. These young girls have been manipulated and abused because they were easy prey for evil men.”

Instead he believes that the cases were not pursued properly because “everyone involved was not as competent as they should have been. I can only speak for the cases I’ve dealt with, but it usually comes down to poor investigation; we didn’t investigate early enough. People have not been as good at their job as they should have been. They haven’t asked the right questions. As a result the victims did not have the confidence to come forward.”

Right. Nothing to see here. 

[GurjantGnostic]

Last paragraph. 

[jkvlondon]

1 hour ago, Premi5 said:

This is disturbing

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazir_Afzal

Personal life[edit]

Afzal has been married three times, which he describes humorously as "multifaith engagement": "First to an Irish Catholic, then to an Indian Hindu and then to a British Sikh." He has one daughter and three sons and is a practising Muslim.^[3]

guess he is a good muslim then acquiring females from other faiths and sticking them and their progeny into the cult

[Ranjeet01]

1 hour ago, GurjantGnostic said:

Last paragraph. 

Like the interfaith group called "Aik Sath"

Whenever the word "interfaith " is used it is a codeword for interacting with Muslims to present them in a good light/ whitewash their abuses/apologist 

[S1ngh]

This Sukhi lady is a total mess up. I believe she used to be active here one time (not sure). Everybody in the article is closely linked to each other based on many common ground. You guys basically opened the can of worms and it’s spilling all truth out. 

It is time to announce SWA as an fake organization and certainly not representing any Sikh Community. I rather have that singh and his group being the real pro-women organization who spent decades highlighting grooming cases. 

[Premi5]

5 hours ago, Premi5 said:

Found the email address:

alia_waheed@yahoo.co.uk

Also

https://www.theguardian.com/info/2014/sep/12/-sp-how-to-make-a-complaint-about-guardian-or-observer-content#f838a2d4-019c-43e3-a95e-1999dce28181

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Also Sikh PA

https://www.sikhpa.com/contact/

[S1ngh]

4 hours ago, Premi5 said:

Also Sikh PA

https://www.sikhpa.com/contact/

Done. Requested them to take a look at this thread and hope that they use their good skills to find out about this "so called" biased fake survey.