Domestic and sexual abuse of silenced Sikh women revealed

[jkvlondon]

42 minutes ago, Jacfsing2 said:

I don’t think Amrit was given easily back then, it’s easier for people to take Amrit now, so if it was harder back then, and our population is around 10% of Sikhs at max, it’s likely back then it was closer to 5%. Udasis and Nirmalas were also more prominent back then.

Bhai Sahib all manjis were authorised to administer charan pahul to new sikhs and later other gursewaks/gurparcharaks including nihang dals administered pahul... I think that the British interference has created the wrong impression , what made amrit sanchar difficult was loss of gurdwara control and hunting down of akalis and antisikh laws by British .

[Jacfsing2]

4 hours ago, Premi5 said:

By definition, can a Gurdwara be without a Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji ?

Seeing Guru Sahib was an extremely rare occasion.

[S1ngh]

4 hours ago, jkvlondon said:

but then ALL sikhs were amritdhari by definition either taking charan pahul or khande di pahul

3 or 4 generations back, all of our folks were amritdharis. 

[Jacfsing2]

6 minutes ago, S1ngh said:

3 or 4 generations back, all of our folks were amritdharis. 

Nice

[S1ngh]

2 minutes ago, Jacfsing2 said:

Nice

Meant for whole sikh community. Not only Amritdhari but also all anand karaj that were perfomed were by the family members rather than hiring someone outside. If you go deep in your ancestors, you will be amazed to find some really good things. 

[joker]

BBC and british intelligence have done culture bashing for decades for decades, embarasse the next generation to assimilate.Remember the constant anti arrange marriage topics on tv during the 80s and 90s.Bible bashing and anti religious comments.Thankfully they have stopped due the strength of islamic community.But sikh religion is still an target,Nri sikhs helped defeat the farming laws in india preventing western companies controling the indian food chain. So the religions roots have to be cut.

Dont think this is a conspiracy theory, read up on the cold war tactics against soviet union by western intelligence

[jkvlondon]

2 hours ago, S1ngh said:

3 or 4 generations back, all of our folks were amritdharis. 

true that's what I meant being patit was the biggest taboo , all the photos taken by gorey from mid 1800s to 1920s showed all sikhs with heads covered , men and boys with dastars and bibian with chunnis , shawl, bagh etc

first major change of amrit sanskar was the universal wearing of dastar after amrit of abhilakhees at Akal Takht the 'temporary ' relaxation of requirement for bibian was done by Gurmukh Singh 'musafir'     hile he was jathedar . My Mum said she remembers bibian from pind when she was little wearing small dastars . (remember this is before AKJ was established)

[ipledgeblue]

20 hours ago, jkvlondon said:

true that's what I meant being patit was the biggest taboo , all the photos taken by gorey from mid 1800s to 1920s showed all sikhs with heads covered , men and boys with dastars and bibian with chunnis , shawl, bagh etc

first major change of amrit sanskar was the universal wearing of dastar after amrit of abhilakhees at Akal Takht the 'temporary ' relaxation of requirement for bibian was done by Gurmukh Singh 'musafir'     hile he was jathedar . My Mum said she remembers bibian from pind when she was little wearing small dastars . (remember this is before AKJ was established)

I have seen portraits of puraatan Singhns though, there's no obvious distaar. I think it used to be a mixture of Singhnis wearing distaar or chunni or some other head covering.

 

Things have changed now where some amrit-dhari bibis leave their head naked.

[GurjantGnostic]

On 11/25/2021 at 9:34 AM, ipledgeblue said:

I have seen portraits of puraatan Singhns though, there's no obvious distaar. I think it used to be a mixture of Singhnis wearing distaar or chunni or some other head covering.

 

Things have changed now where some amrit-dhari bibis leave their head naked.

Mmm. The Kakkar is Kesh and Keski both. 

[MisterrSingh]

On 11/25/2021 at 5:34 PM, ipledgeblue said:

Things have changed now where some amrit-dhari bibis leave their head naked.

That, to my mind, is absolutely mental. It's par for the course for unbaptised Sikh women; every single arrival from Punjab in the past 10-15 years walks around with their heads uncovered. But what are amritdhari bibyan sniffing when they don't cover their heads?